PM Show Hr 2 | Gord Magill on the Regulations Tying Up America's Truckers

The Michael Berry Show33mApril 3, 2026

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In this episode of The Michael Berry Show, host Michael Berry welcomes Gord McGill, a third-generation trucker and author of 'End of the Road: Inside the War on Truckers,' to discuss the systemic crises facing America's trucking industry. McGill argues that the industry is under siege not just from automation and foreign competition, but from decades of deregulation, government mismanagement, and a deliberate influx of undocumented workers through federally funded CDL training programs. He traces the roots of the current crisis to the 1980 Motor Carrier Act, which deregulated entry into the market, leading to a driver retention crisis that companies now exploit by churning through workers and relying on taxpayer-funded training. The Biden administration’s 2021 Trucking Task Force, influenced by corporate lobbying, doubled CDL production without addressing inefficiencies in ports, warehouses, and distribution centers—where 40% of trucking capacity is wasted due to poor coordination. Instead of fixing these issues, the government flooded the market with over 800,000 new CDLs, many issued to undocumented immigrants, refugees, and asylum seekers, displacing thousands of American truckers. McGill also warns of the dangers of self-certified technology like ELDs and autonomous trucks, which are being allowed to bypass safety oversight. The episode underscores a broader theme: the trucking industry is being dismantled not by market forces, but by policy choices that prioritize political gain over safety, fairness, and American workers. Berry emphasizes the deep respect he has for truckers—intellectually sharp, thoughtful, and essential to the nation’s economy—while condemning the systemic devaluation of their labor. He highlights how the narrative of a 'driver shortage' is a manufactured myth used to justify policies that benefit corporations and foreign workers at the expense of American citizens. The episode closes with a heartfelt tribute to truckers, acknowledging their sacrifice and calling for a reevaluation of national priorities in transportation, immigration, and labor policy.

Key Takeaways
1

The 'truck driver shortage' is a myth perpetuated by corporate lobbying; the real issue is poor retention due to low wages and exploitative business models.

2

The Biden administration’s CDL expansion program, funded with taxpayer money, disproportionately issued licenses to undocumented immigrants and refugees, displacing American truckers.

3

Self-certification in ELDs and autonomous truck tech enables safety loopholes, increasing risks on the road due to unregulated software and lack of oversight.

4

40% of U.S. trucking capacity is wasted daily due to inefficiencies in ports, warehouses, and distribution centers—not a lack of drivers.

5

The 1980 Motor Carrier Act deregulated entry into trucking, but the resulting market chaos was exploited by companies that now profit from high driver turnover and taxpayer-funded training.

Chapters
0:00
4 min

The Truckers We Love and the Myth of the 'Shortage'

Michael Berry opens with a tribute to truckers, highlighting their intelligence, depth of thought, and cultural significance. He introduces Gord McGill as a third-generation trucker and author of 'End of the Road,' setting the stage for a deep dive into systemic issues in the industry.

4:00
6 min

Delilah's Law and the Safety Crisis from Undocumented Drivers

We have these regular – we're seeing this with importing illegal – not illegal – we're seeing this with importing doctors. And in the state of Texas, Greg Abbott, our governor – we'll get to that. I don't care if somebody disrespects you, you can't shoot them.

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10:00
10 min

The 1980 Motor Carrier Act and the Rise of Driver Churn

They have a retention issue. So they take this shortage narrative. They go to Congress. They go to states. They say, hey, give us money for training because a lot of these larger truck companies... have 90 to 100 percent driver turnover every year.

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20:00
10 min

The Biden Administration’s CDL Expansion and the Displacement of American Drivers

They were displaced. By all of the migrants, refugees, asylum claimants, illegals. All these people swept into the industry under these programs by the Biden administration that were opened up in 2021 and 2022 and have been active ever since.

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30:00
10 min

The Threat of Self-Certified Technology and Autonomous Trucks

Imagine being a drone operator. Having to look after 100 semis going down the road. Like, what? What? Most people have a hard enough time looking after one while they're right there driving it.

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High-Impact Quotes
They were displaced. By all of the migrants, refugees, asylum claimants, illegals. All these people swept into the industry under these programs by the Biden administration that were opened up in 2021 and 2022 and have been active ever since.
Gord McGill31:36
Viral: 92.0
They have a retention issue. So they take this shortage narrative. They go to Congress. They go to states. They say, hey, give us money for training because a lot of these larger truck companies... have 90 to 100 percent driver turnover every year.
Gord McGill11:25
Viral: 88.0
Imagine being a drone operator. Having to look after 100 semis going down the road. Like, what? What? Most people have a hard enough time looking after one while they're right there driving it.
Gord McGill23:13
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Michael Berry

Guest

Gord McGill
Topics Discussed
Trucker Shortage Myth95%Immigration and Trucking Industry90%Deregulation and Market Failure88%Corporate Welfare and Taxpayer Funding87%Self-Certification and Safety Risks85%Autonomous Trucking and Automation82%Driver Retention and Wages80%Supply Chain Inefficiencies78%
People & Brands

Michael Berry

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15xPositive

Gord McGill

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12xPositive

Biden administration

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10xNegative

Delilah's Law

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6xPositive

Electronic Logging Device

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5xNegative

2021 Trucking Task Force

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4xNegative

Motor Carrier Act of 1980

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4xNegative

American Trucking Associations

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4xNegative

Aurora Innovation

organization

3xNegative

Delilah Coleman

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3xNegative

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