Saturday Bonus Podcast - Un-Cancel Robert E Lee - Czar Talks With Author Gib Kerr
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In this Saturday Bonus Podcast episode of The Michael Berry Show, host Michael Berry interviews Gib Kerr, author of the manifesto-style book 'Uncancel Robert E. Lee,' a passionate defense of the Confederate general against what Kerr describes as a modern 'cancel culture' campaign to erase his legacy. Kerr argues that Lee was not a defender of slavery—calling it a 'moral and political evil'—and that he opposed secession, only joining the Confederacy out of loyalty to his home state of Virginia. He highlights Lee’s post-war commitment to reconciliation, his leadership in rebuilding Washington and Lee University, and his deep Christian faith and Stoic philosophy. Kerr frames the effort to restore Lee’s legacy as part of a broader cultural restoration of American values, emphasizing that history is being reclaimed by non-academics due to the politicization of higher education. Despite professional risks and opposition from university leadership, Kerr remains optimistic, citing growing public support and symbolic victories like the restoration of Lee’s portrait at West Point. The episode underscores the power of courage in standing for truth amid social pressure.
Robert E. Lee opposed slavery and secession, joining the Confederacy out of state loyalty, not ideology.
Lee’s post-war leadership at Washington and Lee University transformed it from near-collapse to a thriving institution.
The movement to 'uncancel' Lee is part of a larger cultural effort to preserve historical truth against politicized revisionism.
Academia’s leftward shift has led to a gap in authentic historical storytelling, now being filled by outsiders like Kerr.
Courage in defending historical figures is essential to preserving national character and moral clarity.
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Introducing the 'Uncancel Robert E. Lee' Movement
“They've tried to erase history. But now history is being written by attorneys, commercial real estate guys like me, people from outside of academia.”
Lee’s Moral and Historical Legacy
“Misfortune nobly born is good fortune. And I quote that in my book because I think those words sum up Robert E. Lee perfectly.”
The Academic Coup and the Rise of Outsider Historians
Kerr critiques the dominance of leftist academics in history departments, citing Howard Zinn’s view of history as a 'quiet revolution.' He argues that authentic history is now being preserved by non-academics, including business professionals and veterans.
The Generals Redoubt and Grassroots Resistance
“The students love us. The students wear our hats and t-shirts and whatnot. Faculty and administration that don't really care for us too much.”
Personal Risk and Public Courage
“The woke mobsters, they're a bunch of cowards. They don't like it when you stand up to them. They're like bullies.”
“Who controls the past controls the future.”
“Misfortune nobly born is good fortune. And I quote that in my book because I think those words sum up Robert E. Lee perfectly.”
“They've tried to erase history. But now history is being written by attorneys, commercial real estate guys like me, people from outside of academia.”
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