The U.F.C. President, Dana White, on Donald Trump: “He’s Not a Racist”

The New Yorker Radio Hour49mMay 22, 2026

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Dana White, president of the UFC, defends Donald Trump as a 'non-racist' and 'loyal friend' in a candid interview with David Remnick, revealing a decades-long personal bond that transcends politics. White recounts how Trump first supported UFC by hosting events at the Taj Mahal in 2001, calling him a 'fighter' and 'resilient human being'—a man whose public persona, while polarizing, White insists is transparent and authentic. The conversation pivots to the upcoming UFC fight on the White House lawn for America’s 250th anniversary, a high-security, high-stakes event that White describes as both surreal and historic. He also reflects on the power of media influence, recounting how he helped broker Trump’s pivotal podcast appearances with Joe Rogan and the Nelk Boys, which dramatically expanded his reach. Despite Rogan’s later criticism of Trump, White remains unwavering in his loyalty, emphasizing that personal friendship outweighs political disagreement. He dismisses concerns about Trump’s health and popularity, insisting he’s in better shape than ever and that his legacy will be judged on accomplishments, not rhetoric. White also discusses the UFC’s massive $7.7 billion deal with Paramount, the rise of betting integrity measures, and his new boxing venture, Zufa, all while maintaining that the core of his success lies in human instinct—'fighting's in our DNA.'

Key Takeaways
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Trump is not a racist, says Dana White, who calls him a transparent, loyal friend and 'one of the most resilient human beings' he’s ever met.

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The UFC fight at the White House lawn for America’s 250th anniversary is real and will feature 4,000 live attendees and 85,000 in the Ellipse.

3

White helped orchestrate Trump’s breakthrough podcast appearances with Joe Rogan and the Nelk Boys, which generated 8 million views in four hours.

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White refuses to criticize Trump publicly, stating he’s not a political person and that loyalty to a friend outweighs policy disagreements.

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The UFC has a $7.7 billion deal with Paramount Plus, and White says the company is now 'clean' on betting thanks to U.S. Integrity and FBI collaboration.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

The UFC at the White House: A 250th Anniversary Fight

We should do a fight at the White House. I said, yes. Yes, we should. I'm in.

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10:00
10 min

The Origins of UFC and the Fight for Legitimacy

White traces UFC’s evolution from a controversial 'human cockfighting' spectacle to a regulated, mainstream sport, emphasizing the role of Senator John McCain in pushing for regulation and legitimacy.

20:00
10 min

Dana White’s Personal Journey and the Birth of UFC

White recounts how he and the Fertitta brothers discovered jiu-jitsu, met fighters, and bought UFC for $2 million in 2001—turning a dying promotion into a global powerhouse.

30:00
10 min

Trump and White: A Friendship Beyond Politics

He's not a racist. He's not a fascist. He loves this country, and if you're an American, race, religion, whatever it is, President Trump is on your team.

Highlight
40:00
10 min

The Power of Podcasts and the Rogan-Trump Connection

The podcast did something like 8 million views in four hours. He got it.

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High-Impact Quotes
He's not a racist. He's not a fascist. He loves this country, and if you're an American, race, religion, whatever it is, President Trump is on your team.
Dana White24:50
Viral: 88.0
We should do a fight at the White House. I said, yes. Yes, we should. I'm in.
Dana White34:32
Viral: 78.0
The podcast did something like 8 million views in four hours. He got it.
Dana White31:17
Viral: 75.0
Speakers

Host

David Remnick

Guest

Dana White
Topics Discussed
ufc fight at white house95%donald trump and dana white90%ufc safety record85%joe rogan trump endorsement82%sports betting integrity80%white house correspondents dinner attack78%ufc and regulation75%zufa boxing venture70%
People & Brands

donald trump

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35xPositive

joe rogan

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15xNeutral

white house

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12xPositive

dana white

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12xPositive

senator john mccain

person

5xPositive

paramount plus

organization

5xPositive

taj mahal

place

4xNeutral

nelk boys

organization

4xPositive

zufa

organization

3xPositive

u.s. integrity

organization

3xPositive

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