#523: Burden of Hoof, Pt. 1 — Babe: Pig in the City
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In this episode of The Next Picture Show, hosts Tasha Robinson, Keith Epps, Genevieve Kosky, and Scott Tobias dive into George Miller's 1998 cult sequel Babe: Pig in the City, examining its tonal shift from the beloved 1995 original. The film, which follows a farm pig forced into the harsh, surreal world of a city filled with outcast animals, is dissected as a dark, visually rich fairy tale that subverts children's film conventions with its melancholy, violence, and emotional complexity. The panel explores how Miller’s distinct filmmaking sensibility—marked by kinetic action, environmental themes, and a recurring hero’s journey—connects this film to his broader body of work, including Mad Max and Happy Feet. Despite its initial critical and commercial failure, the movie has gained a cult following for its boldness, production ambition, and unique blend of whimsy and dread. The discussion also touches on the film’s portrayal of found family, the role of Esme Hoggett as a comedic yet resilient figure, and the ethical weight of its animal-centric narrative. The episode concludes with reflections on the film’s lasting impact and the challenges of reevaluating art through shifting cultural lenses. Key takeaways include: 1) Babe: Pig in the City is a deliberate artistic rebuttal to the sweetness of the original, reflecting George Miller’s desire to explore darker themes; 2) The film’s visual and narrative excesses, while exhausting for some, are intentional expressions of Miller’s signature kinetic style; 3) The movie’s emotional core lies in its portrayal of empathy as a transformative force, even in a world defined by cruelty; 4) The film’s cult status stems from its willingness to confront trauma and moral ambiguity in a genre typically reserved for innocence; 5) The contrast between the film’s vibrant cityscapes and its underlying bleakness creates a unique tension that defines its legacy. The hosts express mixed but respectful reactions, acknowledging the film’s flaws while celebrating its audacity and visual artistry.
Babe: Pig in the City was a deliberate tonal shift from the original, reflecting George Miller’s desire to explore darkness and moral complexity.
The film’s visual excess and kinetic energy are hallmarks of Miller’s style, linking it to Mad Max and Happy Feet despite genre differences.
Empathy and kindness are portrayed as revolutionary forces in a hostile world, central to the film’s message and narrative arc.
The movie’s cult status grew from its initial failure and its willingness to confront trauma, making it a rare adult-oriented talking-animal film.
The found family dynamic, forged through suffering and coercion, is a key structural and thematic element that sets it apart from the first film.
Introduction and Sponsor Announcement
The episode opens with a promotional segment for Regal Unlimited, followed by a reminder to subscribe to the podcast’s Patreon for ad-free episodes and bonus content. The hosts introduce the theme of the week: talking animal films, with a focus on Babe: Pig in the City.
The Rarity of Talking Animal Films
The hosts discuss the scarcity of talking animal films in live-action cinema, especially those aimed at adults. They contrast the genre’s common use in children’s animation with its rare, often satirical or subversive presence in adult-oriented films.
Babe: Pig in the City and Its Dark Fairy Tale Tone
“It's a movie that just doesn't hold together very well for me. But I will take a backseat because my job is not to be a huge wet blanket at the celebration. That's my job, Keith.”
George Miller’s Filmmaking Philosophy and Legacy
“He sees a musicality in all of his work, and it comes out in the interviews about those movies, whether the characters are singing or not.”
Behind the Scenes: Miller’s Creative Conflict
The hosts delve into the production history of Babe: Pig in the City, including Miller’s clashes with director Chris Noonan, his desire for a darker tone, and the film’s eventual identity as a personal artistic statement.
“The empathy gap around phrases like virtue signaling has just been striking me for a very long time in terms of you couldn't possibly believe what you're saying because it differs from my opinion. So you must have an agenda for saying that thing.”
“I just don't think there's a stranger, a five-film 20-year stretch in any director's career than George Miller's between Babe, which he didn't direct obviously. But it's Babe 1995, Babe Pig in the City 1998, Happy Feet 2006, Happy Feet 2 2011 and then Mad Max Fury Road.”
“You've got a bunch of orphaned animals who are hungry and frightened and starving. You've got a mission to save the farm which gets derailed very early on by... a seemingly well-meaning but also just completely indifferent to reality dog.”
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