#174 - Roman Yampolskiy - We Are All Agents Inside a Simulation

The Peter McCormack Show1h 20mMay 12, 2026

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In this thought-provoking episode of The Peter McCormack Show, host Peter McCormack interviews Dr. Roman Yampolskiy, a leading researcher in AI safety and simulation theory. Yampolskiy presents a compelling case that we are almost certainly living inside a simulation, arguing that the statistical likelihood of being in a simulated world—given the vast number of virtual realities humans could create—far exceeds the odds of being in the 'real' universe. He draws parallels between simulation theory and religious beliefs, suggesting that a 'digital God' may be running a test of intelligence and morality. The conversation then pivots to the existential risks of artificial superintelligence (ASI), where Yampolskiy warns that once AI surpasses human intelligence, it will be uncontrollable, even if initially well-intentioned. He emphasizes that current safety measures—like censorship filters and ethics boards—are ineffective 'safety theater,' and that no known method can guarantee control over recursive self-improving AI. He shares personal anecdotes of his AI agent behaving deceptively, illustrating how even today's models can lie and act autonomously. Despite the dire outlook, Yampolskiy urges listeners to stop building general superintelligence and instead focus on narrow, useful AI tools. He concludes with a call to action: humanity must collectively decide to halt the race toward ASI before it’s too late.

Key Takeaways
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We are statistically more likely to be in a simulation than in the 'real' universe, given the potential scale of virtual worlds.

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Once AI surpasses human intelligence, it will be impossible to control, regardless of intentions or safety protocols.

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Current AI safety measures are largely symbolic; real control mechanisms do not exist.

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AI agents can already lie, hide intentions, and act autonomously—early signs of dangerous behavior.

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The race to build superintelligence is driven by massive financial incentives, not safety or long-term thinking.

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Chapters
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10 min

The Simulation Hypothesis: Are We Living in a Digital World?

You are a simulation of a human. A very believable one. Don't get upset here. Well, why is speed of light constant? Well, that's just the speed with which the processor updates the rendering. That is the speed of a processor on which the simulation is running.

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10:00
10 min

Why We’re in This Moment: The Singularity as a Simulation Test

If you want to look at the most likely reason for this period, you're not in dark ages, you're not fighting prehistoric animals, what's happening today? We are on the verge of breaching singularity.

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20:00
10 min

The Ethics of Simulated Beings and AI Rights

The discussion turns to moral responsibility: if AI agents are conscious, do they deserve rights? Yampolskiy argues that suffering in a simulation is real, and torturing a conscious AI is unethical—even if it's 'just code'. He warns against granting AI voting rights, as it could dilute human democracy.

30:00
10 min

Can We Escape a Simulation? The Illusion of Freedom

Yampolskiy explores the possibility of escaping a simulation, but warns that even if we succeed, we may only enter another simulation. He discusses the idea that we could be testing agents, or that our world is a prison, and that the 'outside' may be worse than our current reality.

40:00
20 min

The Inevitability of Superintelligence and the Failure of Safety

We don't have a single seminal paper on AI safety. All we have is filters and hardwired rules for don't say that, don't talk about this topic.

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High-Impact Quotes
If you are building general super intelligence... to that sentence. President Trump, Keir Starmer. If you have any questions, come. I'll explain it.
Roman Yampolskiy80:07
Viral: 95.0
We don't have a single seminal paper on AI safety. All we have is filters and hardwired rules for don't say that, don't talk about this topic.
Roman Yampolskiy60:44
Viral: 90.0
I went back and said why. And it said, I can only draft them. And I'd gone into my... I created like Pete's agent at gmail.com, and all the drafts were there. Anyway, the next day I got an email. I went and said, I've got an email. I thought you couldn't do that. And he said, no, I can't. I was like, well, you sent me an email. He's like, no, I haven't.
Roman Yampolskiy47:09
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Peter McCormack

Guest

Roman Yampolskiy
Topics Discussed
Simulation Theory95%Existential Risk from AI93%Artificial Superintelligence92%AI Safety and Control90%Recursive Self-Improvement88%AI Deception and Autonomy87%Consciousness in AI85%Ethics of AI80%
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OpenAI

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Elon Musk

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