De-escalating difficult situations in schools

The Relief Teacher's Podcast by Tradewind Australia34mApril 7, 2026

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This episode of The Relief Teacher's Podcast explores the critical skill of de-escalation in school environments, focusing on managing challenging behaviors from students, staff, and parents. Host Billy Green, joined by panellists Sue Muir, Helen Tomatis, and Terry Toomey, discusses how the traditional top-down authority model has evolved into a more nuanced, empathetic approach. The conversation highlights that modern classrooms—especially in secondary schools—require relief teachers to prioritize composure, active listening, and strategic compromise over control. The panel emphasizes that de-escalation isn’t about surrendering authority but about maintaining classroom functionality and student well-being, even when outcomes aren’t perfect. Real-world scenarios are examined, including a group of Year 9 students refusing to move desks, a distressed primary student knocking books over, a dismissive staff member, and an angry parent confronting the teacher in front of the class. Each scenario is met with strategies centered on acknowledging emotions, offering limited choices, and preserving dignity while ensuring safety. Key takeaways include the importance of not taking behavior personally, recognizing that every student has a story, and understanding that relief teachers operate with limited context and time. The episode stresses that while there are no one-size-fits-all solutions, maintaining calm and strategic decision-making is essential. The panel also cautions against over-relying on acronyms like CALM, advocating instead for intuitive, experience-based responses. Ultimately, the message is clear: success isn’t measured by winning every confrontation, but by minimizing harm, preserving learning, and knowing when to seek support. The tone is pragmatic, empathetic, and encouraging, offering relief teachers practical tools to navigate emotional turbulence with professionalism and care.

Key Takeaways
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Prioritize composure over control—your calm sets the tone for the classroom.

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Acknowledge emotions and give students agency by asking 'why' and offering choices.

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Don’t take student behavior personally; recognize that challenging actions often stem from unmet needs or stress.

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Know your limits: stay in your lane, accept that you won’t win every battle, and seek help when safety is at risk.

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When dealing with parents or staff, acknowledge their frustration without engaging in conflict—redirect to the appropriate authority.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introduction: The Evolving Role of Relief Teachers

Billy Green welcomes listeners to the episode, introducing the topic of de-escalation in schools and setting the stage for a discussion on how modern classroom dynamics have shifted from rigid authority to more empathetic, relationship-based approaches.

2:00
3 min

The Shift from Authority to De-escalation

The panel reflects on how teaching culture has changed—where once teachers held unquestioned authority, today’s classrooms demand diplomacy, emotional regulation, and a willingness to compromise, especially for relief teachers who lack long-term relationships with students.

5:00
5 min

Core Principles of De-escalation

You’re not going to win every battle. You don’t know all of the backstories and sometimes, as Terry said, you’re just going to have to compromise and get it as good as you can.

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10:00
8 min

Scenario 1: The Refusing Group in Year 9

I’ll allow you to work here providing you do your work. Now you tell me what have we just agreed to? It’ll be work. So if I look up and you’re not working, then we need to move to something else.

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18:20
7 min

Scenario 2: The Distressed Primary Student

They want to be heard, they want to be acknowledged for that hurt that they might be feeling... and okay, it happened, let’s move on from it now.

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High-Impact Quotes
You’re not going to win every battle. You don’t know all of the backstories and sometimes, as Terry said, you’re just going to have to compromise and get it as good as you can.
Helen Tomatis6:54
Viral: 85.0
If you really got to buy into this de-escalation, this may be not what you fully want and no, they may not 100% commit to the work but if you’ve got 80% of them doing 80% of the work, that’s better than the whole thing blowing up.
Terry Toomey30:35
Viral: 82.0
I’ll allow you to work here providing you do your work. Now you tell me what have we just agreed to? It’ll be work. So if I look up and you’re not working, then we need to move to something else.
Helen Tomatis17:24
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Host

Billy Green

Guests

Sue MuirHelen TomatisTerry Toomey
Topics Discussed
de-escalation in classrooms95%relief teacher challenges90%student behavior management88%emotional regulation in teaching87%teacher-student relationships85%professional boundaries for CRTs82%parent engagement and conflict80%staff collaboration and support75%
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