The Report Card with Nat Malkus: What Can AI Replace in Higher Education? (with Hollis Robbins)
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In this episode of The Report Card, Nat Malkus interviews Hollis Robbins, a professor of English at the University of Utah and former dean, about the transformative potential of AI in higher education. Robbins delivers a scathing critique of the current state of American higher education, particularly its general education requirements, which she argues are often taught by underqualified adjuncts in online asynchronous formats that prioritize cost and access over quality. She contends that these courses are largely a waste of time and money, especially in the age of AI, which can deliver the same 'known-knowns' far more efficiently. Robbins makes the bold case that AI should replace human instructors in general education, not because it's superior in all ways, but because it's already better than the average teaching experience. She emphasizes that the real value of higher education lies in intellectual and moral formation, critical judgment, and engagement with the frontiers of knowledge—areas where human professors still excel. The conversation explores how universities must shift from content delivery to fostering deep thinking, discussion, and personal development, with AI serving as a tool for information access. Robbins warns that universities are failing to adapt, with leadership avoiding the hard questions, and calls for systemic change driven by university presidents and state legislatures. She envisions a future where AI-powered, small-seminar models—like those at St. John's College or Covenant College—become the new standard, combining human mentorship with AI-driven knowledge delivery. Despite skepticism, Robbins remains optimistic that AI will ultimately improve higher education by forcing institutions to confront their inefficiencies and rediscover their core mission.
General education courses in most public universities are often low-quality, online, and taught by underqualified instructors, making them a poor use of student time and money.
AI can and should replace human instructors in delivering general education content, as it is already better than the average teaching experience and far more efficient.
The true value of higher education lies not in content delivery but in intellectual and moral formation, critical judgment, and engagement with the frontiers of knowledge—areas where human teachers remain essential.
Universities must abandon bureaucratic mandates like forced general education requirements and transfer credit systems that flatten teaching and devalue faculty expertise.
The future of higher education should be a hybrid model: AI handles information delivery, while human instructors lead small, discussion-based seminars focused on deep thinking, debate, and personal growth.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Crisis of Higher Education Quality
“Most teaching a college student that a student is going to get at a college or university is going to be mediocre to bad, if not very bad, particularly given the rise of online asynchronous instruction.”
The Failure of General Education
“I would cancel them all. I would send out a memo to states saying, 'Look, you don't need to mandate these courses. They're not worth the money.'”
AI as a Replacement for Mediocre Teaching
“AI is maybe at 75%, 80%. It's not as good as the very top layer of teachers, but it is better than 75% of the instruction currently going on.”
The Irreplaceable Role of Human Teachers
“I would do a job that AI can't do. Right now, when you teach, how do you use AI in your classes? Well, I'm teaching... to ask students... to deliver things to me beyond what AI knows.”
The Bureaucratic Obstacles to Change
Robbins highlights how state mandates, transfer credit systems, and bureaucratic inefficiencies have entrenched a system where the professor doesn't matter. She argues that these structures make universities uniquely vulnerable to AI disruption.
“I think it absolutely will. And let me also say, we'll tell a student, if you can go to a flagship that has a football team, go to the flagship that has a football team because it will be most likely to survive.”
“I would cancel them all. I would send out a memo to states saying, 'Look, you don't need to mandate these courses. They're not worth the money.'”
“I would do a job that AI can't do. Right now, when you teach, how do you use AI in your classes? Well, I'm teaching... to ask students... to deliver things to me beyond what AI knows.”
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