America Needs New Allies for Future Ai Wars | Judge Roy Altman
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Judge Roy K. Altman joins The Rubin Report to discuss his new book, 'Israel on Trial,' which examines the historical, legal, and moral foundations of Israel's existence in the face of widespread misinformation. Drawing from his personal history as a Venezuelan-Jewish immigrant and federal judge, Altman recounts his profound moment of clarity during a visit to southern Israel after October 7th, where he met the host in a war-torn gas station. He argues that Israel is not just a strategic ally but a vital testing ground for future military technologies—especially in AI, cyber warfare, and intelligence—making it indispensable to U.S. national security. Altman dismantles myths about Palestinian statehood, citing six historical offers for a Palestinian state rejected by Palestinian leadership, and uses archaeological, genetic, and documentary evidence to affirm the deep, continuous Jewish connection to the land over 3,200 years. He challenges the modern decolonization narrative by asserting that Israel is the only nation that has maintained its language, religion, and land for millennia—making it the ultimate example of indigenous sovereignty. Despite a small but vocal minority of radicalized individuals, Altman emphasizes that 90% of Americans are open to reason and common sense, and that the real mission is to inoculate the broad middle with factual, rational arguments to prevent the spread of hate and falsehoods. The episode closes with a lighthearted promise to continue the conversation—on the basketball court.
Israel serves as America’s critical 'beta testing ground' for future military technologies, especially in AI, cyber warfare, and intelligence.
Historical evidence—archaeological, genetic, and documentary—proves continuous Jewish presence in the land for over 3,200 years.
Six separate offers for a Palestinian state were made between 1936 and 2005; all were rejected by Palestinian leadership.
The 90% of Americans who are not radicalized are open to reason and can be persuaded with clear, factual arguments.
Decolonization principles should logically support Israel as the only nation to maintain its ancient identity, language, and land.
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A Strange Meeting in War-Torn Israel
Host Dave Rubin recounts an unexpected encounter with Judge Roy Altman at a gas station in southern Israel shortly after October 7th, highlighting the surreal nature of their meeting amid ongoing conflict and the shared Jewish heritage that binds them.
From Venezuela to the Bench: A Life of Public Service
Altman shares his family’s escape from the Holocaust, his grandfather’s final lesson on civic duty, and his journey from Venezuela to becoming a federal judge in Florida—driven by a deep belief in America’s promise and the responsibility to serve.
Venezuela’s Hope and the Rise of a New Future
Altman reflects on the recent political transformation in Venezuela, expressing optimism about a democratic future and drawing parallels between Venezuela’s diaspora and the Jewish people’s historical resilience.
Israel as America’s Strategic Quantum Ally
“They are the testing ground, the beta center that we need in order to build the technologies that are going to win us the wars of the future.”
The Historical Truth: Evidence from Rocks, Blood, and Words
“All three of those independent, neutral, objective pieces of evidence going back thousands of years prove one thing about this land. And that is that this land has always been Jewish land governed by Jews and having Jews living in it in large numbers.”
“If we care about the rights of indigenous people at all, then we've got to look at the rocks in the ground and the words on the page and the blood in the veins. All of which shows that when you go back 3,200 years ago... there is only one people anywhere in the world who still speaks the same language, who practices the same religion, and who lives and governs in the same land as they did 3,200 years ago. And that's the Jews.”
“All three of those independent, neutral, objective pieces of evidence going back thousands of years prove one thing about this land. And that is that this land has always been Jewish land governed by Jews and having Jews living in it in large numbers.”
“They are the testing ground, the beta center that we need in order to build the technologies that are going to win us the wars of the future.”
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