We tried to fix passwords... then argued about religion
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Paul and Eric dive into a chaotic, meandering conversation sparked by a personal list of pet peeves—starting with a radical idea: allowing one typo in passwords to improve usability without sacrificing security. They debate whether systems should tolerate minor errors like combination locks do, using real math to show that increasing password length from 11 to 13 characters adds billions of years to brute-force attack time. Yet they acknowledge the real-world friction of typing complex passwords, especially on mobile devices. The conversation spirals into a series of absurd rabbit holes: the absurdity of spaces in passwords, the potential of emojis as password elements, and even the ethics of taking photos of conference slides—where a racial stereotype is briefly floated and then immediately deconstructed with empathy. The episode culminates in a deeply personal and philosophical debate about prayer before non-religious events, particularly in youth sports. Eric argues that group prayer, even if well-intentioned, imposes religious norms on others and undermines religious freedom—especially as demographics shift. Paul counters with a defense of personal faith, but both agree that private devotion is acceptable while mandatory group prayer crosses a line. The episode ends with a mock prayer, underscoring the tension between personal belief and collective inclusion.
Allowing one typo in passwords could improve usability without significantly reducing security, especially when using 12+ character passwords with mixed character types.
A 13-character password requires 11 billion years of brute-force compute time—far beyond the age of the universe—making it effectively unhackable.
Using emojis in passwords is technically feasible via Unicode and Windows emoji shortcuts, though standardization across platforms remains a challenge.
Taking photos of conference slides may stem from cognitive load differences, not laziness, and could be a form of accessibility or learning support.
Group prayer before non-religious events can alienate participants of other faiths or no faith, undermining inclusivity even if well-intentioned.
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The List Begins: Rabbit Holes and Rants
Paul and Eric launch the episode with a chaotic, self-aware dive into a personal list of pet peeves. They riff on password design, Wi-Fi issues, AI audio glitches, and sound effects, setting a tone of playful irreverence. The hosts introduce their new 'endless rabbit holes' format, embracing tangents as part of the show's charm.
Password Tolerance: Should Systems Allow Typos?
“The difference between 11 and 12 characters is 162 million years worth of brute force compute attack time.”
The Emoji Password Fantasy
“Poo emoji, poo emoji, eggplant, squirt, squirt, squirt. Now it sounds like Funny or Die or whatever it is where they're auditing the...”
Slide Photography: Cultural Insight or Inconsiderate Habit?
“I think the reason they're maybe taking the picture of a slide is that they have to do more cognitive work to understand what's on that slide than a native speaker.”
The Rise of the Bots: Can You Trust Your Feed?
The hosts confront the reality that most social media interactions are not with real people. They analyze their own feeds and conclude that 80% of content is bot-generated or algorithmically driven. This leads to a broader question: would knowing 50% of online interactions are fake change your behavior?
“The future is likely going to be predominantly Muslim. Do I want to be in a meeting where they all face east and pray to Allah? Right. No, I would be very uncomfortable.”
“The difference between 11 and 12 characters is 162 million years worth of brute force compute attack time.”
“I think the reason they're maybe taking the picture of a slide is that they have to do more cognitive work to understand what's on that slide than a native speaker.”
Hosts
Paul
person
Eric
person
ChatGPT
product
I Am Third
organization
Windows emoji keyboard
product
Copilot
product
Michael Scott
person
Neato
organization
LastPass
product
Steve Carell
person
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