Ep. 318: “Modeling Reproduction and Endocrinology” Featuring Dr. Kotaro Sasaki
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In this episode of The Stem Cell Podcast, hosts Drs. Daylon James and Arun Sharma welcome Dr. Kotaro Sasaki from the University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine to discuss his pioneering work in modeling human reproductive and endocrine systems using pluripotent stem cells. Sasaki’s lab focuses on three interconnected areas: in vitro gametogenesis, testicular somatic cell development, and adrenal gland organoid modeling. He details his systematic approach—rooted in developmental biology—to recreate human germ cell development from stem cells, highlighting key discoveries such as the origin of primordial germ cells in the nascent amniotic layer in primates, a major divergence from mouse models. His team has advanced to generating spermatogonia-like cells from human iPSCs and is now tackling the next major hurdle: completing meiosis to produce functional haploid sperm. Simultaneously, Sasaki’s lab has made breakthroughs in modeling the human adrenal gland, successfully recapitulating its zonal architecture in organoids by combining iPSC-derived progenitors with capsule-like cells. These models offer unprecedented tools to study adrenal development, disease, and steroidogenesis. The hosts reflect on the broader implications of this work, from treating infertility and adrenal insufficiency to the ethical and technical challenges of translating in vitro gametogenesis into clinical practice. The episode closes with a powerful call to learn from nature’s blueprint—using developmental biology as a guide—rather than forcing synthetic solutions, underscoring the elegance of recapitulating biological processes step by step. Key takeaways include: (1) In vitro gametogenesis is progressing rapidly, with human germ cell development now being systematically modeled using insights from developmental biology; (2) The adrenal gland’s complex zonation can be reconstituted in vitro using iPSC-derived organoids, enabling new research into endocrine disorders; (3) The success of these models hinges on mimicking in vivo developmental cues, especially the critical role of somatic cells in germ cell maturation; (4) Ethical and safety barriers remain high for clinical application of in vitro-derived gametes, requiring extensive non-human primate testing; (5) The field’s progress is a testament to the power of learning from model organisms and developmental biology before engineering stem cell systems.
In vitro gametogenesis is advancing rapidly by systematically recapitulating developmental biology, not by synthetic engineering.
Human primordial germ cells originate in the nascent amniotic layer, not the epiblast, highlighting critical species-specific differences.
Adrenal gland zonation can now be modeled in vitro using iPSC-derived organoids, enabling study of steroidogenesis and disease.
Somatic cells are essential for germ cell maturation and must be human-derived for clinical translation.
Ethical and safety hurdles for clinical use of in vitro-derived gametes are substantial and require long-term non-human primate validation.
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Dr. Kotaro Sasaki: Advancing Human Reproductive Medicine with Stem Cells
“It's already done in mice. We can make a mouse sperm like mouse oocyte from the iPS cells. Why not in humans? Of course it works. It's just that we... it's way more complex.”
Modeling the Human Adrenal Gland: From Stem Cells to Zonal Architecture
“We could successfully reconstitute this fetal prenatal human adrenogram from iPS cells through this step-by-step direct differentiation approach.”
The Journey to In Vitro Gametogenesis: From PGCs to Sperm
Sasaki outlines the systematic path his lab has taken to generate human germ cells in vitro, from primordial germ cell-like cells to spermatogonia-like cells. He discusses the critical role of somatic cells in germ cell maturation and the ongoing challenge of completing meiosis to produce functional sperm.
Ethical and Clinical Implications of In Vitro Gametogenesis
The hosts and Sasaki discuss the profound ethical and safety challenges of using in vitro-derived gametes for clinical fertility treatments, including the need for long-term non-human primate studies to ensure genomic and epigenetic integrity before any human application.
“It's already done in mice. We can make a mouse sperm like mouse oocyte from the iPS cells. Why not in humans? Of course it works. It's just that we... it's way more complex.”
“It's very important to first learn from the development biology and then apply that for your stem cell biology... rather than directly jumping on this you know engineering and synthetic you know stuff.”
“This is a real full circle story for me... maybe we don't need to replace the heart. Maybe we don't need to be injecting cardiomyocytes. Maybe we don't need Xeno hearts, maybe it's enough to just put out the fire after MI.”
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Daylon James
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Arun Sharma
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Kotaro Sasaki
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University of Pennsylvania
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Michinori Saito
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Ralph Brinster
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Stem Cell Technologies
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Alfonso Arias
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Yang Zhu
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Azim Surani
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