How Trump’s Iran war is driving military dissent
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This episode of The Take explores growing dissent within the U.S. military over President Trump's escalating war with Iran, highlighting a surge in conscientious objector filings and veteran-led protests. As the U.S. deploys 10,000 troops to the Strait of Hormuz and rumors of automatic draft registration surface, service members are questioning their roles, citing moral opposition to civilian casualties—particularly the bombing of the Manab Girl School—and distrust in leadership, including figures like Pete Hegseth and J.D. Vance. The Center on Conscience and War reports a dramatic spike in calls from service members, many of whom are taking concrete steps to leave the military due to a profound shift in conscience, driven by exposure to the realities of modern warfare through social media and global events like the war in Gaza. The episode also examines how Pentagon policies targeting diversity, equity, and inclusion—such as banning Black History Month and expelling Black service members with skin conditions—have deepened alienation among minority troops, undermining morale and cohesion. Protesters, including veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, have engaged in civil disobedience at the Capitol, demanding Congress end funding for what they describe as an illegal and immoral war. The discussion underscores a pivotal moment in American military culture: a growing belief that a truly moral army is impossible when the U.S. military operates as an instrument of foreign aggression rather than national defense. With over 100 service members filing conscientious objector claims in just one month—more than in any comparable period during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars—it’s clear that moral resistance is no longer a fringe phenomenon. The episode concludes with a powerful challenge to the idea of military loyalty without ethical accountability, urging both service members and the public to recognize and exercise their rights to refuse participation in unjust wars.
Over 100 U.S. service members have filed as conscientious objectors in the past month—double the annual average—due to moral opposition to the war in Iran.
The U.S. military is facing internal dissent not just over war policy, but also due to discriminatory policies targeting Black service members and DEI initiatives.
Automatic draft registration, recently passed in the defense budget, has sparked public outrage and fears of mass resistance.
Veterans and military families are leading civil disobedience protests, arguing that Congress must be held accountable for funding an unpopular and unjust war.
The erosion of trust in leadership—especially figures like Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump—has fueled a crisis of morale and legitimacy within the armed forces.
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The Rise of Military Dissent
“I will flee. I will go to jail. So Mike, as you said, this is all happening as the U.S. is in the middle of a war with Iran.”
The Draft and Automatic Registration
The episode unpacks the controversial new defense budget provision that would automatically register all eligible males for the draft, highlighting concerns over privacy, religious freedom, and the potential for mass resistance.
Conscientious Objectors in Crisis
“The number of clients that we have now filing as CO, it's about in the past month, it's about double what we normally handle in a single year.”
Leadership, Morality, and the Military Ethos
“Look at Donald Trump. Look at J.D. Vance. Look at Pete Hegseth. Right. Look at Tulsi Gabbard. Look at the people that are in charge of this military machine. They're kind of weird people.”
The War on Identity and the Military
“This is an ideology that really goes back to the Civil War. The Confederacy was horrified at the fact that black men were allowed to serve in the U.S. military.”
“This is an ideology that really goes back to the Civil War. The Confederacy was horrified at the fact that black men were allowed to serve in the U.S. military.”
“This is a war based on lies. This is the war killing innocent people. Get out now. Exercise your rights to get out now.”
“I will flee. I will go to jail. So Mike, as you said, this is all happening as the U.S. is in the middle of a war with Iran.”
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Mike Preissner
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U.S. Military
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Iran
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Pete Hegseth
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Center on Conscience and War
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Donald Trump
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Walid Gabilal
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Selective Service
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Israel
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Congress
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