#98 Why Your Best People Are Leaving: CLAIRE BATEMAN on EMPLOYEE RETENTION That Actually Works

The Thriving Workplace Podcast36mMay 18, 2026

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Claire Bateman, General Manager of People and Culture at Uniting Church Queensland, reveals why traditional one-size-fits-all retention strategies fail—and how her organization achieved a 2025 award for best recruitment and retention by ditching the 'magic pill' myth. Instead of blanket policies, Uniting Church built tailored team agreements that let employees co-design their work rhythms—whether that meant hybrid office days, shift flexibility, or even booking desks across teams. The result? Higher engagement, stronger collaboration, and a 300% increase in participation in their 'Cuppa Connect' cross-team coffee initiative. Claire emphasizes that retention isn’t about perks—it’s about trust, psychological safety, and understanding that flexibility isn’t just about location, but when, how, and why people work. She warns against the '2% myth' of remote work abuse and urges leaders to listen to their teams, not just their boards. The real power lies in small, intentional actions: start with one high-impact issue—like pay or shift fairness—and build from there. The episode dismantles the myth of universal solutions, showing that the most effective retention comes from deep listening, team-led agreements, and designing work around people—not the other way around. Claire’s advice to 'listen to your gut feel' isn’t just a platitude—it’s a call to trust the human insights that data alone can’t capture.

Key Takeaways
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Create team-specific work agreements instead of blanket office policies—let teams co-design their flexibility based on purpose, not just location.

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Flexibility isn’t just about working from home; it’s about when, how, and why people work—especially for shift workers and those with caregiving responsibilities.

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Use inclusive job ads that explicitly welcome underrepresented groups by stating: 'If you meet most criteria, apply—even if you don’t meet all.'

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Launch low-effort, high-impact initiatives like 'Cuppa Connect'—a monthly cross-team coffee pairing program—to build relationships and reduce isolation.

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Start with one high-leverage issue (e.g., pay, shift fairness) instead of trying to fix everything at once—tackle the 'leak' first.

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Chapters
0:00
3 min

The Rise of the Flexible Work Era

The podcast opens with a promo for the National Workplace Wellbeing Conference in Brisbane, setting the stage for a deep dive into modern workforce dynamics, where mobility and choice are now the norm.

2:30
3 min

Why One-Size-Fits-All Retention Fails

I don't think there's a magic pill. There would be a magic pill for each individual. But then you'd have to work out what that looks like.

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5:00
5 min

Tailored Flexibility: Beyond Home vs. Office

We went through a process back in 2024... where we created tailored team agreements. As a team, we got into what's your customer? What's your purpose?

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10:00
5 min

The Real Cost of Over-Reliance on Office Presence

Claire addresses the pressure from boards to fill empty offices, highlighting that hybrid models can reduce costs, improve parking access, and increase employee satisfaction.

15:00
5 min

Flexibility for Shift Workers: A New Definition

Flexibility looks different and it's not necessarily where you work, it's when you work and the ability to choose how you work.

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High-Impact Quotes
Flexibility looks different and it's not necessarily where you work, it's when you work and the ability to choose how you work.
Claire Bateman17:31
Viral: 90.0
think, no, there's not a magic pill. There would be a magic pill for each individual. But then you'd have to work out what that looks like.
Claire Bateman6:08
Viral: 85.0
we've started it, we've... The amount of people that have signed up to do it has grown threefold.
Claire Bateman26:45
Viral: 75.0
Speakers

Hosts

LaurenJason

Guest

Claire Bateman
Topics Discussed
employee retention95%flexible work arrangements92%team-based decision making88%employee value proposition87%hybrid work models85%inclusive hiring83%workplace culture80%cross-team collaboration78%
People & Brands

Claire Bateman

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15xPositive

Uniting Church Queensland

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12xPositive

Cuppa Connect

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4xPositive

Instagram

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National Workplace Wellbeing Conference

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Facebook

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1xNeutral

TikTok

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1xNeutral

Ari's 2025 Award

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1xPositive

Workplace Performance and Wellbeing Institute

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1xNeutral

Psychosocial Code of Practice

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