#98 Why Your Best People Are Leaving: CLAIRE BATEMAN on EMPLOYEE RETENTION That Actually Works
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Claire Bateman, General Manager of People and Culture at Uniting Church Queensland, reveals why traditional one-size-fits-all retention strategies fail—and how her organization achieved a 2025 award for best recruitment and retention by ditching the 'magic pill' myth. Instead of blanket policies, Uniting Church built tailored team agreements that let employees co-design their work rhythms—whether that meant hybrid office days, shift flexibility, or even booking desks across teams. The result? Higher engagement, stronger collaboration, and a 300% increase in participation in their 'Cuppa Connect' cross-team coffee initiative. Claire emphasizes that retention isn’t about perks—it’s about trust, psychological safety, and understanding that flexibility isn’t just about location, but when, how, and why people work. She warns against the '2% myth' of remote work abuse and urges leaders to listen to their teams, not just their boards. The real power lies in small, intentional actions: start with one high-impact issue—like pay or shift fairness—and build from there. The episode dismantles the myth of universal solutions, showing that the most effective retention comes from deep listening, team-led agreements, and designing work around people—not the other way around. Claire’s advice to 'listen to your gut feel' isn’t just a platitude—it’s a call to trust the human insights that data alone can’t capture.
Create team-specific work agreements instead of blanket office policies—let teams co-design their flexibility based on purpose, not just location.
Flexibility isn’t just about working from home; it’s about when, how, and why people work—especially for shift workers and those with caregiving responsibilities.
Use inclusive job ads that explicitly welcome underrepresented groups by stating: 'If you meet most criteria, apply—even if you don’t meet all.'
Launch low-effort, high-impact initiatives like 'Cuppa Connect'—a monthly cross-team coffee pairing program—to build relationships and reduce isolation.
Start with one high-leverage issue (e.g., pay, shift fairness) instead of trying to fix everything at once—tackle the 'leak' first.
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The Rise of the Flexible Work Era
The podcast opens with a promo for the National Workplace Wellbeing Conference in Brisbane, setting the stage for a deep dive into modern workforce dynamics, where mobility and choice are now the norm.
Why One-Size-Fits-All Retention Fails
“I don't think there's a magic pill. There would be a magic pill for each individual. But then you'd have to work out what that looks like.”
Tailored Flexibility: Beyond Home vs. Office
“We went through a process back in 2024... where we created tailored team agreements. As a team, we got into what's your customer? What's your purpose?”
The Real Cost of Over-Reliance on Office Presence
Claire addresses the pressure from boards to fill empty offices, highlighting that hybrid models can reduce costs, improve parking access, and increase employee satisfaction.
Flexibility for Shift Workers: A New Definition
“Flexibility looks different and it's not necessarily where you work, it's when you work and the ability to choose how you work.”
“Flexibility looks different and it's not necessarily where you work, it's when you work and the ability to choose how you work.”
“think, no, there's not a magic pill. There would be a magic pill for each individual. But then you'd have to work out what that looks like.”
“we've started it, we've... The amount of people that have signed up to do it has grown threefold.”
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