Why data centres became a target in the Iran war
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This episode of The Times Tech Podcast explores the growing geopolitical significance of data centers, now being targeted in the Iran-US conflict as critical infrastructure. Host Katie Prescott, joined by tech correspondent Mark Selman, examines how Iran's recent attacks on US-owned data centers in the Persian Gulf—such as those operated by Amazon Web Services and Oracle—have elevated these physical facilities to the status of a new front line in modern warfare. The episode highlights the UK's shift in infrastructure priorities, where the value of approved data centers has surpassed that of office buildings for the first time, underscoring the central role of AI and cloud computing in the global economy. Guest Lei Zhang, CEO of Chinese green tech firm Envision, discusses his vision for a sustainable, AI-powered future, including plans for a fully renewable-powered AI data center in the Gobi Desert and the creation of 'green ammonia' as a clean, transportable fuel. He warns that AI and future 'silicon civilizations' will become massive energy consumers, potentially outpacing human needs, and argues that global collaboration on renewable energy is essential for long-term energy security. The episode also touches on domestic challenges in the UK, including public resistance to data center construction, concerns over energy grid strain, and cyber threats targeting household routers, revealing the deep interconnection between technology, sovereignty, and national security.
Data centers are now considered critical national infrastructure, comparable to power grids and ports, due to their role in powering AI and global digital services.
Iran has targeted US-owned data centers in the Middle East, marking a new frontier in modern warfare where digital infrastructure is as vital as physical military assets.
The UK has approved data centers worth nearly £9 billion in planning permission—surpassing office buildings—highlighting a major shift in national infrastructure investment.
Envision CEO Lei Zhang advocates for a global green energy transition, including renewable-powered AI data centers and green ammonia exports, to meet soaring AI energy demands.
AI and future 'silicon civilizations' may become self-sustaining, energy-hungry entities that could outcompete humans for resources, necessitating ethical and sustainable design.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The New Front Line: Data Centers in War
“They really have become a new front line.”
UK's Infrastructure Shift: Data Centers Over Offices
“The value of new data centres approved last year overtook office buildings.”
Iran's Attacks on US Data Centers
“Iran hit an Amazon Web Services data centre in the UAE and that saw banking sites, payments, consumer services all hit.”
The Rise of AI and Energy Demand
The episode explores the massive energy demands of AI and data centers, with Envision's Lei Zhang warning that AI could become the largest energy consumer, requiring a global shift to renewable sources.
Envision's Green Vision: From Wind to Green Ammonia
Lei Zhang details Envision’s global green energy projects, including wind turbines, battery storage in the UK, and the world’s first shipment of green ammonia from Mongolia, powered by renewable energy.
“This AI civilization or silicon civilization... It's going to be even beyond our control.”
“They really have become a new front line.”
“The value of new data centres approved last year overtook office buildings.”
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