Did Jesus Torture People? The Governor of Kentucky Says He Did Ep-2642

The Todd Herman Show52mApril 1, 2026

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The Todd Herman Show episode titled 'Did Jesus Torture People? The Governor of Kentucky Says He Did' confronts a controversial statement by Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear, who claimed that conversion therapy is torture and equated it to Jesus' method of teaching. Host Todd Herman refutes this assertion, arguing that Jesus never tortured anyone—his teachings were rooted in dialogue, questioning, and spiritual guidance, not coercion or harm. Herman uses a real-life example of a child therapist helping a gender-confused boy through conversation to illustrate that 'conversion therapy' as commonly understood (shock treatment) is not what happens in compassionate, faith-based counseling. He contrasts this with what he calls 'spiritual capture'—a condition he attributes to Beshear and others who promote policies he views as dangerous to children, such as gender-affirming care and mixed-sex overnight programs in schools. Herman warns of a broader cultural panic fueled by fearmongering, citing false claims about Olympic regulations, bathroom laws, and medical bans. He emphasizes that fear is not from God and calls listeners to discernment, truth, and spiritual clarity, urging them to reject narratives that demonize natural gender identity and instead trust in God's design. The episode blends theological argument, cultural critique, and personal testimony to warn against the normalization of sin and the manipulation of children through ideology.

Key Takeaways
1

Jesus did not torture people—his teaching was through conversation, not coercion.

2

Talking to children about gender identity is not conversion therapy; it's compassionate dialogue.

3

Fear of non-existent threats (e.g., forced medical procedures on children) is a spiritual tactic used by the 'prince of the air'.

4

The term 'conversion therapy' is being weaponized to describe normal therapeutic conversations.

5

Policies like mixed-sex overnight camps and gender-affirming care are not inherently harmful when properly supervised.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

The Governor’s Claim: Jesus Tortured Kids?

The governor of Kentucky says Jesus Christ tortures kids. We'll talk about this all with the help of God Almighty.

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1:50
3 min

Debunking the 'Jesus Torture' Narrative

Herman dismantles the idea that Jesus tortured people by analyzing His teaching methods—questioning, dialogue, and confrontation—using Peter’s rebuke as the harshest thing Jesus ever said. He argues that spiritual conversation is not torture.

5:00
5 min

The Real 'Conversion Therapy': Pornography and Exploitation

That is conversion therapy. It is converting a boy's brain to sit and talk with a kid, as happened with my friend who told me the story of his molestation...

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10:00
5 min

Oregon School Scandal: Mixed-Sex Overnight Camps

Look what happens when you pretend to be a girl. You get to stand there fully clothed in a position of relative power, watching girls undress in front of you...

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15:00
5 min

The Iowa Library Porn Book Scandal

This book is wholly inappropriate for children 11 to 14 years old. It doesn't just discuss identity. It delves into explicit details about homosexual acts...

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High-Impact Quotes
There's an expiration date on grace. We don't know when, but there is.
Todd Herman51:01
Viral: 95.0
The governor of Kentucky says Jesus Christ tortures kids. We'll talk about this all with the help of God Almighty.
Todd Herman0:00
Viral: 90.0
He created rote legislation and push legislation that protects sex offenders who have same-sex activity with minors.
Todd Herman40:56
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Todd Herman
Topics Discussed
Jesus' Teaching Methods92%Conversion Therapy Misconceptions90%Gender Identity and Children88%Spiritual Capture and Fear85%Parental Rights and Child Safety83%Pornography and Sexual Exploitation80%Political Manipulation and Ideology78%Grace and Repentance75%
People & Brands

Todd Herman

person

40xPositive

Andy Beshear

person

15xNegative

Bone Frog Coffee

brand

7xPositive

Oregon

place

6xNegative

Scott Wiener

person

6xNeutral

Alan Soaps

brand

5xPositive

Idaho

place

5xNegative

Jenna Ellis

person

5xNeutral

GLAAD

organization

4xNegative

Kentucky

place

4xNegative

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