Q & Trey: The Cost of Gas and the Code of Justice

The Trey Gowdy Podcast27mMay 14, 2026

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Trey Gowdy tackles a pressing public concern—why U.S. gas prices keep rising despite domestic oil abundance—with a candid, expert-backed explanation rooted in global markets, refining constraints, and regional disparities. He debunks the myth that domestic production alone guarantees cheap fuel, revealing that crude oil is priced globally, refining capacity is limited and expensive to expand, and regional fuel blends and taxes create massive price variations—California and Alaska see the highest costs, while South Carolina remains relatively affordable. Yet, even as he validates the frustration of drivers filling up for $80, he underscores that U.S. gas remains cheaper than in most other countries. The episode then pivots to a deeply personal and insightful reflection on his interview with Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch, where Gowdy reveals the profound humility and intellectual rigor of the judiciary. He shares how the justice’s mindset—prioritizing process over outcome, and admitting when he disagrees with his own rulings—stands in stark contrast to political thinking. This moment of reverence for the legal system’s integrity is underscored by a touching anecdote: Gorsuch signed a book for Gowdy’s wife’s former school, a gesture that exemplifies the quiet dignity of the bench. Finally, Gowdy confirms the long-awaited sequel to his bestselling novel *The Color of Death* is in final stages, set for a fall release, with new characters, a fresh plot, and deeper exploration of the criminal justice system—though he teases that the identity of 'J.D.' (a key twist from the first book) remains a secret, even to his own mother.

Key Takeaways
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U.S. gas prices are driven by global crude markets, not domestic production, making them vulnerable to international conflicts and supply shocks.

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Even with abundant U.S. oil, refining capacity is limited, expensive to build, and heavily regulated, creating a bottleneck that keeps prices high.

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Regional fuel blends, state taxes, and pipeline access explain why gas costs vary dramatically—California and Alaska are the most expensive, South Carolina more affordable.

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Supreme Court justices operate on process, not outcome—Justice Gorsuch admitted he sometimes disagrees with his own rulings, a hallmark of judicial humility.

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Judges are bound by their oath to be referees, not political actors, and cannot discuss pending or recent rulings publicly, even with interviewers.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Gas Prices and Global Markets

Oil and gas prices are shaped by the global market, not domestic production or domestic demand.

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2:20
3 min

The $80 Fill-Up and Hidden Pump Limits

Jimmy shares a personal story of his gas pump cutting off at a $100 threshold before the tank was full, sparking humor and reflection on the financial strain of high fuel costs.

5:20
5 min

Interviewing Justice Neil Gorsuch: Humility in the Judiciary

If you're a good judge, at some point you're going to disagree with one of your own decisions. You're going to say, I wish that I had been able to reach a different conclusion.

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10:00
3 min

Judicial Integrity and the Oath of Office

Gowdy contrasts the judicial mindset with politics, highlighting how judges must remain neutral, avoid public commentary on rulings, and follow their oath as referees, not advocates.

13:20
3 min

The Sequel to The Color of Death: Coming Fall 2026

I am putting the final touches on the sequel to The Color of Death as we speak. It will be out this fall.

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High-Impact Quotes
If you're a good judge, at some point you're going to disagree with one of your own decisions. You're going to say, I wish that I had been able to reach a different conclusion.
Trey Gowdy14:58
Viral: 92.0
I am putting the final touches on the sequel to The Color of Death as we speak. It will be out this fall.
Trey Gowdy19:50
Viral: 88.0
Oil and gas prices are shaped by the global market, not domestic production or domestic demand.
Trey Gowdy3:20
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Trey Gowdy

Guest

Justice Neil Gorsuch
Topics Discussed
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