625 Backrooms & Spider-Noir
The Backrooms isn’t just a horror film—it’s a cultural exorcism for Gen Z’s collective anxiety, a $10 million fever dream built on 30,000 square feet of practical set that makes liminal spaces feel physically real. Hosts James and Nick Mason argue that its success lies not in plot or monsters, but in its ability to evoke the haunting familiarity of forgotten furniture stores and endless yellow corridors—spaces that mirror half-remembered moments from our lives, not trauma. The film’s refusal to explain its universe is its greatest strength: audiences don’t want answers, they want to feel lost. Yet the pirate man with a peg leg feels like a punchline, and the script reads like a series of YouTube shorts strung together. In contrast, Spider-Man Noir thrives in black and white—Nicolas Cage’s world-weary Ben Reilly only works in monochrome, where the aesthetic and tone are inseparable. The episode mourns the passing of Marsha Lucas, the unseen architect of Star Wars’ rhythm and pacing, and skewers Masters of the Universe for being a dead IP with no resonance for today’s youth. The real takeaway? The future of cinema isn’t in reboots—it’s in empowering young creators to make weird, self-made internet stories that feel authentic. The hosts then spiral into surreal self-awareness: imagining the Backrooms as a podcast studio with a broken screen that just says 'podcast,' confessing adult exam nightmares, and pitching a Dracula movie with back acne and a stack of rats.
Backrooms succeeds not because of plot, but because it evokes the emotional weight of liminal spaces—half-remembered moments from your life.
The film’s $10 million budget was spent on 30,000 square feet of practical set, making the backrooms feel physically real and immersive.
Spider-Man Noir only works in black and white—the aesthetic was designed for monochrome, not color.
Nicolas Cage’s performance as Ben Reilly thrives in the noir tone, but the default color version is a marketing failure.
The future of cinema lies in empowering young creators to make weird, self-made internet stories, not in big-budget reboots.
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Welcome Back & The Weekly Planet Vibe
James and Nick kick off the episode with their signature banter, mocking the illusion of listener interaction and setting the tone with playful, meta humor about podcasting.
Marsha Lucas: The Quiet Architect of Star Wars
“She also edited a movie from the late 60s, so pre-American graffiti called... a medium cool, which is it's got Robert Forster in it. And it's sort of, it's sort of like night crawler.”
Masters of the Universe: A $200M Misfire
“It's also going up against, as we mentioned, that the target demographic is 50 years old and dead. Yeah, that's right. What do you do about that?”
Backrooms: The Viral Liminal Horror Film
“It's not about like a Marvel movie where a scientist is going to sit down and explain exactly. Which they sort of attempt at one point. But yeah, for me, it just feels more – it just feels like a naturally occurring phenomenon that doesn't have to even be a reason why this exists.”
Spider-Man Noir: A Black-and-White Masterpiece
“It does look like an old movie in the sense of, it does look like they're on old sets and they're obviously like, you know how old movies used to use rear projection and stuff like that.”
“Well, I'd finally get my Lamborghini, wouldn't I? I'd get a version of it. Yeah. I'd get like a crayon drawing of a Lamborghini that I could sort of drive around.”
“It happened three hours ago. And I flash back to all the implements in the kitchen that I walked past as I came in here. I'm like, oh no, we did it.”
“This is what Batman was in the 80s. Shit's unreal. I love it.”
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Backrooms
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Spider-Man Noir
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Kane Parsons
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Masters of the Universe
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Nicolas Cage
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Marsha Lucas
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mason
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Stan Lee
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Chiwetel Ejiofor
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