Matthew Rosenberg (If Destruction Be Our Lot...)

The Writers Panel44mMay 5, 2026

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In this episode of The Writers Panel, host Ben Blacker welcomes comic book writer Matthew Rosenberg to discuss his new Image Comics series, If Destruction Be Our Lot, a post-apocalyptic story about robots inheriting Earth after humanity's extinction, centered on an animatronic Abraham Lincoln on a quest for purpose. Rosenberg reveals the book's origins in a haunting image of Lincoln wandering empty New York City streets during the pandemic, and details his unique 50-50 co-writing process with his brother Mark, emphasizing brutal honesty and creative tension as strengths. The conversation explores the challenges of balancing character-driven storytelling with high-concept premises, the evolution of the story from a six-issue plan to a sprawling 20-issue arc, and Rosenberg's philosophy that character connection matters more than plot or spectacle. He reflects on his own body of work, including Four Kids Walk into a Bank and the upcoming film adaptation, and shares insights on collaboration, adaptation, and the changing landscape of comics. The episode closes with Rosenberg recommending recent favorites like the series Pluribus, the graphic novel The Smell of Starving Boys, and the absurdist comic Mr. Boop.

Key Takeaways
1

Prioritize character over high-concept premises—readers buy comics for the people, not the plot.

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True collaboration requires honesty and creative tension, not just compromise.

3

Post-apocalyptic settings can feel more authentic when created during real-world upheaval.

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Allow yourself creative freedom by decoupling comic book creation from film adaptation constraints.

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The best stories are those that let characters breathe and evolve over time, like TV series such as Fargo or Atlanta.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

The State of the Industry and the Writer's Dilemma

Ben Blacker opens with a candid reflection on the current struggles in the writing industry—difficulty selling work, lack of staffing, and the emotional toll of creative uncertainty. He shares his own efforts to stay productive through live events, newsletters, and multiple writing projects, urging listeners to support the podcast via paid subscriptions.

5:00
7 min

Introducing 'Spectacular': A Live Read of a Lost Pilot

Blackers announces a live reading of the pilot Spectacular, a dark comedy about the disastrous making of the Spider-Man musical Turn Off the Dark. He details the star-studded cast, live score, puppetry, and the emotional significance of reviving a project that never got its due. The event is set for May 16th at Dynasty Typewriter Theater in LA.

11:40
7 min

Matthew Rosenberg: A Career in Comics and the New Book

Matthew Rosenberg introduces his new Image Comics series, If Destruction Be Our Lot, a story about robots inheriting Earth after human extinction, with a focus on an animatronic Abraham Lincoln searching for meaning. He discusses the book’s origins in a pandemic-era walk through empty NYC streets and its co-writing process with his brother.

18:20
10 min

The Co-Writing Process: Honesty, Conflict, and Creative Tension

It's never gotten nasty, but it is just a little more brutally honest than I think a lot of my collaborations. Every idea sort of fights to the death to be in the book.

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28:20
10 min

Themes and Evolution: From 'Four Kids Walk into a Bank' to 'If Destruction Be Our Lot'

It's not a rebuttal per se, but it is me taking a new point of view on things or things that I felt like I had something else to say.

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High-Impact Quotes
No one is buying a Spider-Man comic because they want to find out if he beats the Green Goblin. They're buying it because they love Peter Parker.
Matthew Rosenberg38:57
Viral: 95.0
I was like, no, it's not. And he said, yeah, it is. And he knows everything we've ever done. So he told me what issue and what page.
Matthew Rosenberg30:05
Viral: 90.0
I'd watch characters I love get lunch together. Character I don't care about, it doesn't matter if I'm going to die in the book. Like, it doesn't matter to me at all.
Matthew Rosenberg40:03
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Ben Blacker

Guest

Matthew Rosenberg
Topics Discussed
Collaborative Writing95%Character-Driven Narratives92%Post-Apocalyptic Storytelling90%Comic Book Creation Process88%Adaptation and Trust85%Creative Identity and Legacy80%Pandemic-Inspired Creativity75%The Business of Comics70%
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If Destruction Be Our Lot

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Matthew Rosenberg

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Ben Blacker

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Mark Rosenberg

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Four Kids Walk into a Bank

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Image Comics

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Spectacular

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Annie McDonald

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Frankie Shaw

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Tyler Boss

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