Episode 102 - Toronto Under Construction with Mike Czestochowski of CBRE, Josh Lerner of Harbour Equity, and Sharon Florian of Florian Group
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In this candid and insightful episode of Toronto Under Construction, host Ben Myers convenes a roundtable with three industry leaders—Sharon Florian of Florian Real Estate Group, Mike Czestochowski of CBRE, and Josh Lerner of Harbour Equity—to dissect the current state of Toronto's real estate market. The conversation reveals a market in deep correction, marked by stalled condo developments, distressed land sales, and a significant decline in investor confidence. Despite the turmoil, the guests agree that the fundamentals of Toronto’s economy and population growth remain strong, with the city’s diversity and resilience offering long-term stability. They highlight a growing shift toward purpose-built rental, value-add investments, and low-rise developments, while cautioning against new high-rise pre-construction projects due to oversupply and weak demand. The panel emphasizes that timing is critical, with many predicting a market turnaround around 2028–2029, driven by a looming supply cliff. They also call for urgent policy changes—such as HST and DC relief, 105% financing, and faster approvals—to stimulate activity and prevent a prolonged downturn. The episode closes with a rapid-fire segment offering sharp, humorous insights into market realities, from AI agents to condo fees and developer behavior. Key takeaways include: (1) The high-density land market remains frozen, with 75% of CBRE’s listings now distressed; (2) Developers are shifting from condos to rental and low-rise projects due to risk and demand shifts; (3) A supply shortage is expected by 2028–2029, which will likely trigger a sharp rebound in prices and rents; (4) Policy uncertainty—especially around HST, DCs, and foreign buyer rules—is a major deterrent to market recovery; (5) The most resilient investors are those who are patient, value-focused, and willing to act when the market shows signs of turning. The overall sentiment is cautiously optimistic, grounded in realism, and focused on long-term structural recovery rather than short-term speculation.
75% of high-density land listings are now distressed, signaling a deep market correction.
The market is shifting from pre-construction condos to purpose-built rental and low-rise developments.
A supply cliff is expected by 2028–2029, which will likely trigger a sharp rebound in rents and prices.
Policy uncertainty—especially around HST, DCs, and foreign buyer rules—is a major barrier to recovery.
The most resilient investors are those who are patient, value-focused, and ready to act when the market turns.
Market Reality Check: Toronto's Real Estate in Crisis
“Toronto is the city in Canada. The sky is not falling. Yeah, I mean, there's not a lot of other places for people to go if they want to move up.”
Distress in the Land Market: Who’s Losing and Why
The panel dives into the growing wave of distressed land sales, with Mike Czestochowski detailing how B&C lenders are refusing to sell at deep discounts, and developers are stuck with land worth half their purchase price. Josh Lerner and Sharon Florian confirm that equity providers and investors are bearing the brunt of losses.
The End of the Condo Boom: From Pre-Sales to Rental Shift
“We're looking more existing stuff, value add type stuff, because taking the risk of a ground up development in the market today... It's really hard to justify.”
The Role of Policy: HST, DCs, and the Need for Government Action
“Let's stop trying to reinvent it and build it ourselves as the government. We have smart private developers. Let's get going.”
The Future of Development: Value, Not Amenities
“I'd rather spend my money where I would like to spend it. Right. Like if I happen to like Pilates, I'll go and pay my $50 per Pilates class versus paying my maintenance fee.”
“Toronto is the city in Canada. The sky is not falling. Yeah, I mean, there's not a lot of other places for people to go if they want to move up.”
“Let's stop trying to reinvent it and build it ourselves as the government. We have smart private developers. Let's get going.”
“Once the completions dry up completely in the high-rise market, meaning there's going to be no rental product coming on, rents are going to shoot back up.”
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