The Check-In with Kevin Barnes-of Montreal
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Kevin Barnes of of Montreal joins Joe Plummer for a candid and introspective conversation about his new album, Ether Mead, set for release on June 5th via Polyvinyl. Barnes reflects on his move from Vermont to Brooklyn, the emotional undercurrents of heartbreak and personal reinvention that shaped the record, and his evolving approach to songwriting and collaboration. He discusses the album’s return to psych folk pop roots after recent electronic experiments, emphasizing the importance of spontaneity, collaboration with longtime touring musicians, and the therapeutic act of releasing emotional 'darkness into the ether.' Barnes also shares insights into his teaching experience at Bennington College, where he led a class titled 'Songwriting Crimes and Recording Atrocities,' encouraging creative risk-taking and embracing unpredictability. The episode closes with a heartfelt discussion about his daughter directing the music video for 'Already Dreaming,' highlighting the joy of creative family collaboration and the sincerity that comes from personal investment in artistic projects.
Embrace emotional honesty in songwriting—songs about relationships often reflect inner turmoil more than the other person.
Allow each album to organically shape itself rather than forcing a sound; let inspiration guide the process.
Collaboration breathes life into music—working with familiar musicians fosters authenticity and connection.
Create intentionally uncomfortable art: make something you don’t like at first—your future self may love it.
The most powerful music videos come from personal investment and creative ownership, not just performance.
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Kevin Barnes' Move to Brooklyn
Kevin shares his recent move from Vermont to Brooklyn, reflecting on the emotional catalyst of ending an eight-year relationship and seeking a fresh start in New York.
The Creative Process Behind Ether Mead
“I was writing a lot of songs on acoustic guitar in my kitchen and just feeling that kind of vibe. And I was thinking, oh yeah, obviously I could go up into my little studio room and just start making it.”
Emotional Core: Heartbreak and Self-Reflection
“Sometimes we're not really seeing a person as a human. We're just seeing them as a shape that we're filling in.”
“I want to make something that I don't like... because if I just keep making things I like, then it's going to have like the same equality to it.”
“Sometimes we're not really seeing a person as a human. We're just seeing them as a shape that we're filling in.”
“The songs are about me processing my narcissism or whatever.”
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Joe Plummer
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