Narcissism and Borderline Dynamics from the Inside-Out with Brad Kammer, CTTC Training Director & Faculty
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In this episode of Transforming Trauma, host Emily Roof sits down with Brad Kammer, CTTC Training Director and Faculty, to explore the origin and purpose of the Inside Out Teaching Series—a transformative initiative designed to help mental health professionals confront their own narcissistic and borderline dynamics. Kammer shares how his personal journey with covert narcissism, shaped by a family system steeped in narcissistic patterns, led him to create a safe, nonjudgmental space for therapists to explore their inner worlds. The series, which began with 'Narcissism from the Inside Out,' emphasizes experiential learning over theoretical instruction, using dyads, group discussions, and role plays to foster vulnerability, self-compassion, and relational awareness. Kammer stresses that these patterns are not moral failings but part of normal development that become pathological when dissociated from. The upcoming 'Borderline from the Inside Out' workshop will delve into relational sensitivity, fear of abandonment, boundary struggles, and the overlap between covert narcissism and borderline dynamics. The overarching message is that therapists must first heal their own shadows to become more present, effective, and compassionate clinicians. The series also includes a future workshop on intergenerational and cultural trauma, continuing CTTC’s mission of integrating personal and professional growth. Key takeaways include: 1) Therapists must examine their own narcissistic and borderline patterns to avoid projection and burnout; 2) The Inside Out series offers a safe, experiential space for deep self-inquiry; 3) Covert narcissism and borderline dynamics often coexist and are rooted in early attachment wounds; 4) Setting authentic boundaries is essential for therapist well-being and client autonomy; 5) Healing begins with self-compassion and recognizing that all humans carry these patterns; 6) The therapeutic relationship is transformed when clinicians are in touch with their own inner world; 7) Trauma is not just client-centered—it’s also a professional and relational challenge; 8) The series models how to humanize clinical labels and reclaim the humanity in both therapist and client.
Therapists must confront their own narcissistic and borderline dynamics to avoid projection and burnout.
The Inside Out series provides a safe, experiential space for deep self-inquiry and relational awareness.
Covert narcissism and borderline dynamics often overlap and stem from early attachment wounds.
Authentic boundaries are essential for therapist well-being and client autonomy.
Self-compassion and recognizing shared humanity are foundational to healing.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Introduction to the Inside Out Series and CTTC's Mission
Emily Roof welcomes listeners to the Transforming Trauma Podcast and introduces the Complex Trauma Training Center (CTTC), promoting the Summer 2026 NARM Therapist Training. She highlights CTTC’s commitment to integrating professional development with personal growth, setting the stage for the episode’s focus on inner work.
The Origin Story: Why the Inside Out Series Was Created
“I grew up in a family system with a lot of narcissism. And so, you know, the fact that I was going around thinking a lot of people were narcissists, it took me a while to realize I need to look in the mirror.”
The Power of Vulnerability and Safety in Therapist Training
“It takes a lot of courage to look at. And I was just so blown away by the level of vulnerability and authenticity and how little strategies people were using and people were just honest.”
Understanding Narcissism: From Covert to Therapeutic Forms
“Therapeutic narcissism is a lot about kind of seeing clients as an extension of ourselves. And it can go in both directions...”
The Borderline Experience: Sensitivity, Fear of Abandonment, and Relational Patterns
“If you don't see those bubbles on your iPhone, which means that they're typing, like what's happening inside of a person? What's the stories they start to make up about their partner cheating on them?”
“I just don't believe if you look hard enough inside yourself, you're not going to be able to find some of these borderline or narcissistic dynamics because they live inside of all of us.”
“You can't take someone to a place that you haven't gotten to know inside yourself.”
“It takes a lot of courage to look at. And I was just so blown away by the level of vulnerability and authenticity and how little strategies people were using and people were just honest.”
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Complex Trauma Training Center
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Brad Kammer
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Inside Out Teaching Series
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Emily Roof
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NARM
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Borderline from the Inside Out
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Transforming Trauma Podcast
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Intergenerational and Cultural Trauma from the Inside Out
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Lawrence Heller
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Summer 2026 NARM Therapist Training
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