DEX in the City: Will the CLARITY Act Pass? Three Crypto Lawyers Give Their Odds

Unchained49mMay 14, 2026

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In this episode of Unchained, host Catherine KK and guest Josh Riesman, Chief Legal and Strategy Officer at GSR, dive into the latest developments around the Clarity Act—a comprehensive crypto market structure bill aimed at providing regulatory clarity for the digital asset industry. The discussion centers on the newly released 300+ page draft, the bill’s current political hurdles, and the growing bipartisan momentum in the Senate. Despite optimism from industry insiders, challenges remain, including Democratic concerns over ethics, developer protections, and the need for a clear distinction between securities and commodities in secondary markets. The episode also explores the emerging 'Crypto Spring' phenomenon, marked by strategic M&A activity, major funding rounds, and institutional adoption—particularly from firms like BlackRock and Morgan Stanley—signaling a maturation of the ecosystem. A key theme is the convergence of TradFi and crypto, with blockchain infrastructure now seen as a tool for modernizing traditional finance. The SEC’s recent speech by Chair Atkins further reinforces a shift toward rulemaking over enforcement, signaling a pro-innovation regulatory mindset that aligns with legislative progress. The episode closes with a reflection on the importance of education and advocacy to ensure lawmakers understand the transformative potential of crypto beyond speculation. Key takeaways include: 1) The Clarity Act is closer than ever to passage, but political and ethical hurdles remain; 2) Institutional adoption is accelerating, with banks investing in crypto infrastructure and products; 3) Developer protections, particularly around specific intent in criminal statutes, are critical for innovation; 4) Regulatory clarity is not a magic wand—it’s the beginning of a multi-year rulemaking process; 5) The crypto industry must continue educating lawmakers to counter outdated perceptions; 6) The convergence of TradFi and crypto is real and accelerating; 7) The SEC’s shift toward rulemaking over enforcement is a positive sign; 8) The 'Crypto Spring' is driven by institutional interest, not just retail speculation.

Key Takeaways
1

The Clarity Act is the most significant legislative progress in crypto regulation, with bipartisan support in the Senate, but passage remains uncertain due to political and ethical concerns.

2

Institutional adoption is accelerating, with major banks like Morgan Stanley and BlackRock actively investing in crypto infrastructure and products.

3

Developer protections, especially the inclusion of 'specific intent' in criminal statutes, are crucial to prevent overreach and encourage innovation.

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Regulatory clarity is not a one-time event—it’s the starting point for years of rulemaking, interpretation, and litigation.

5

The SEC is shifting from enforcement to rulemaking, signaling a pro-innovation approach that aligns with the Clarity Act’s goals.

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0:00
3 min

Welcome to Dex in the City: The Clarity Act Update

Host Catherine KK welcomes listeners to the episode, introduces the guest Josh Riesman, and sets the stage for a deep dive into the newly released draft of the Clarity Act. She emphasizes the importance of regulatory clarity and warns that the episode is not legal advice.

2:30
5 min

The Clarity Act: Progress, Politics, and the Road Ahead

I'm at 35 not because I don't think the bill is good. Like if I am dying for the passage of this bill, like I please. pass, please.

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7:30
8 min

Developer Protections and the Specific Intent Clause

You need a specific intent to want them to do that. That must be the purpose for creating it, right? So that's actually, I think, a really important distinction.

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15:00
10 min

TradFi Meets Crypto: The Institutional Shift

Josh Riesman shares insights on how major financial institutions like JP Morgan, BlackRock, and Morgan Stanley are now actively embracing digital assets—not just as investments, but as tools to modernize their infrastructure and improve efficiency.

25:00
10 min

Crypto Spring: M&A, Funding, and Institutional Momentum

It's not just a casino. It's like the opener or the sideshow for kind of the institutional conversation where real massive money is beckoning.

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High-Impact Quotes
The SEC and Congress have been talking this whole time because they're like, it feels to me like they really are in lockstep on a lot of the stuff from the legislation that touches on the SEC.
V36:29
Viral: 88.0
I'm at 35 not because I don't think the bill is good. Like if I am dying for the passage of this bill, like I please. pass, please.
Catherine KK19:19
Viral: 85.0
It's incumbent on the industry to do the education, to take the time to speak with our representative and say, no, this is a kind of a parallel financial system we're building with entrepreneurs mainly now in the United States.
Catherine KK44:41
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

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Catherine KK

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Josh Riesman
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