272. Genetics, DNA, Epstein & Mormons?

Unfiltered - Rise - Podcast1h 29mApril 27, 2026

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Heidi Love dives into a deeply researched, unsettling exploration of the hidden intersections between Mormonism, genetics, eugenics, and elite power structures—centered on Utah as a global epicenter of genetic research. She reveals how the LDS Church’s vast genealogical records, combined with the work of Mormon billionaires like James Sorensen and scientists such as George Church, laid the foundation for Ancestry.com, 23andMe, and the Human Genome Project. What begins as a historical deep dive into Utah’s role in genetic innovation quickly evolves into a provocative thesis: that the state’s unique population—marked by large families, religious discipline, and meticulous record-keeping—became a de facto testing ground for eugenics, transhumanism, and covert human experimentation. Heidi connects these threads to Howard Hughes’ obsession with longevity, Jeffrey Epstein’s genome-focused 'Venus Project,' and the mysterious Alta Summit of 1984, suggesting a long-standing, coordinated effort by elite scientists, billionaires, and secret societies to manipulate human evolution. While she stops short of accusing anyone of wrongdoing, her tone implies a chilling pattern of control masked as altruism—where religious devotion, scientific progress, and eugenic ideology converged to create a blueprint for a genetically engineered future. The episode ends not with answers, but with a defiant vow: despite technical sabotage and personal attacks, she will not quit.

Key Takeaways
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Utah’s Mormon population became the world’s gold standard for genetic research due to their detailed genealogical records and large family sizes.

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The Utah Genome Project and Human Genome Project were heavily influenced by LDS Church records and funded by Howard Hughes, IBM, and the Department of Energy.

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Forced sterilizations in Utah (1925–1974) targeted the 'feeble-minded,' epileptics, and those deemed genetically inferior—part of a state-sponsored eugenics program.

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James Sorensen, a Mormon billionaire, founded Ancestry.com using church data, which later became foundational for 23andMe and global DNA databases.

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George Church, linked to Epstein, was central to the 1984 Alta Summit, which launched the Human Genome Project and pioneered CRISPR and organ regeneration research.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

Opening: The Unfiltered Rise Amid Chaos

I don't care what they try to do. And, you know, there's been multiple people that have said things over the years and all I've ever done is try to support people. I've never turned people down for shows. That's probably why I got hacked because I just was an open door and I can't open that door right now.

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5:00
15 min

The Mormon DNA Revolution: From Ancestry.com to the Genome Project

Heidi traces the origins of Ancestry.com to James Sorensen, a Mormon billionaire and philanthropist, whose vision for proving the Book of Mormon through DNA failed but led to a massive genealogical database. She details how the LDS Church’s meticulous records, combined with Howard Hughes’ funding and Bill Gay’s digitization efforts, created the foundation for modern genetic testing and the Human Genome Project.

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20 min

Utah as the Epicenter of Genetic Innovation

Heidi highlights Utah’s outsized role in human genetics, citing the Utah Population Database (UPDB), the CEPH family studies, and the University of Utah’s leadership in cystic fibrosis and cancer research. She reveals that the state’s unique population—large families, religious discipline, and detailed records—made it the ideal testbed for genetic mapping and disease research.

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20 min

Eugenics in Utah: The Hidden Legacy of Forced Sterilization

By 1916, Dr. George A. Hyde, he was the superintendent from 1916 until 1922. He did try, like I said, he was – I feel like he was a kinder person maybe. He would try to get these different hospital – programs funded, especially for the epileptics, like saying, you know, hey, they're smart. They're not really broken, which is sad.

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The Alta Summit and the Birth of the Human Genome Project

It says scientific milestones held in December 1984 at the Alta Ski Resort near Salt Lake City. Their meeting was organized by the Department of Energy. You don't say. Howard Hughes was totally involved in all kinds of departments of energy and nuclear, all kinds of stuff like that.

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High-Impact Quotes
I don't care what they try to do. And, you know, there's been multiple people that have said things over the years and all I've ever done is try to support people. I've never turned people down for shows. That's probably why I got hacked because I just was an open door and I can't open that door right now.
Heidi Love87:56
Viral: 85.0
The initiative was part of a broader internet in human genomics and manipulation suggesting he wanted to hack his way out of the aging process.
Heidi Love74:51
Viral: 82.0
It says scientific milestones held in December 1984 at the Alta Ski Resort near Salt Lake City. Their meeting was organized by the Department of Energy. You don't say. Howard Hughes was totally involved in all kinds of departments of energy and nuclear, all kinds of stuff like that.
Heidi Love47:50
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Host

Heidi Love
Topics Discussed
mormon genetics95%eugenics in utah90%human genome project88%jeffrey epstein genetics85%george church83%utah population database80%alpine summit 198478%transhumanism75%
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LDS Church

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Heidi Love

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University of Utah

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Howard Hughes

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George Church

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Jeffrey Epstein

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James Sorensen

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Ancestry.com

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Utah State Training School

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6xNegative

Alta Club

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