392. Hiro Shinn & Joe Krumholz - Foto Foto
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Hiro Shinn and Joe Krumholz, childhood friends from Brooklyn, are redefining disposable photography with PhotoPhoto—a sustainable, thoughtfully designed film camera that blends analog charm with modern engineering. What began as a shared frustration over the broken experience of using traditional disposable cameras to document a friend’s newborn birth has evolved into a mission to create a better, more meaningful way to capture life’s moments. Their journey, spanning years of research, international partnerships in Malaysia and Switzerland, and a deep dive into film logistics, reveals a deliberate rejection of trends in favor of timeless craftsmanship. They argue that the resurgence of film isn’t a fad, but a human reaction to digital saturation—seeking tangible, imperfect, and intentional experiences. With a vision to build the 'best point-and-shoot film camera ever,' they’re not just selling cameras; they’re building a movement rooted in presence, physicality, and emotional resonance in an age of AI-generated noise. Their humility, self-awareness about imposter syndrome, and refusal to perform founder culture make their story feel refreshingly real. At the heart of PhotoPhoto is a belief that creativity isn’t reserved for artists or designers—it’s a universal impulse that deserves tools that honor it.
The best point-and-shoot film camera ever built is the ultimate goal—engineering excellence meets emotional design.
Film photography is not a trend but a human counter-reaction to digital saturation and AI overload.
Sustainable disposable cameras require solving real-world logistics: film sourcing, lab access, and global manufacturing partnerships.
Improve the film lab experience by making development faster, cheaper, and more accessible—especially for people outside major cities.
The most powerful content isn’t polished—it’s authentic, imperfect, and built in public, even when it feels cringe.
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Brooklyn Roots & Childhood Bonds
Hiro and Joe, lifelong friends from Brooklyn, reflect on their shared history—growing up in different parts of the borough, bonding over second-grade attendance awards, and maintaining a deep connection through decades of life changes.
From Finance to Film: Career Crossroads
Both founders reveal their non-linear paths—starting in finance and e-commerce—before realizing their true passion lay in merging creativity with business, leading to the birth of PhotoPhoto.
The Birth of PhotoPhoto: A Failed Hospital Trip
“He bought a disposable camera to go to the hospital and take pictures with the camera and have those nice film photos to remember such an important day. So he got the camera, he goes to the hospital, kid is born, everything goes great. And then he lives in Westchester, which is suburbs of New York. And it took him like 30 minutes or something to find the nearest place he could get it developed. Took like many, it might've taken a month for him to get his photos back. Um, and then the photos themselves were just like bad.”
Designing the Future of Disposable Cameras
The duo shares how they found a Swiss engineer with a 17-year history of film camera design and partnered with a high-quality manufacturer in Malaysia, overcoming tariff challenges and global logistics.
Film, Aesthetic, and the Power of Imperfection
“Just the snap of a button, Daniel Arnold style, street photography, I have grown to realize that I love this like mini dopamine hit. That I get from shooting.”
“I never considered myself a photographer. I play music. I don't consider myself a musician. I run three businesses, but I don't call myself an entrepreneur. What level of imposter syndrome am I at? Yeah, that's like Grandmaster.”
“If you live in the middle of the country, right? Your only option probably is like a Rite Aid or CVS and might take a long time. You don't know how great the quality is going to be. It's just sort of a black box.”
“Just the snap of a button, Daniel Arnold style, street photography, I have grown to realize that I love this like mini dopamine hit. That I get from shooting.”
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PhotoPhoto
brand
Joe Krumholz
person
Hiro Shinn
person
Rashad Rostam
person
Malaysia
place
Blade Runner
media
Natural History Museum
organization
CineStill 800
product
Switzerland
place
Tutto Pasa
other
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