When Everything Feels Uncertain With Touré Roberts
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In this deeply reflective episode of *Woman Evolved*, Sarah Jakes Roberts explores the universal struggle of living in a time of pervasive uncertainty, drawing from personal seasons of doubt, betrayal, and identity crisis. She shares how the aftermath of a powerful Woman Evolved conference left her questioning her anointing after being bombarded by external judgments online, prompting a spiritual retreat into Scripture and prayer. Through a heartfelt listener’s story about losing her spark after spiritual betrayal, Sarah offers radical wisdom: stop grieving the past version of yourself and instead embrace the new, God-shaped spark that can emerge from pain. She then interviews her husband, Touré Roberts, about his book *Knowing*, which reframes certainty not as rigid knowledge but as a dynamic, Spirit-led faith that allows believers to 'go rogue' in a chaotic world. The conversation unpacks the concept of 'knowing' as an innate, God-given sense—our first sense—that was disrupted in the Garden but can be reclaimed through surrender, stillness, and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. The episode culminates in a powerful call to let go of toxic shaping, trust divine intelligence over human opinion, and live with the confidence that God’s plans for us are already unfolding.
Stop mourning the past version of yourself—grieve it, then let it go to make space for the new, God-shaped spark you’re becoming.
True certainty isn’t knowing every detail, but knowing who holds the future—God—and trusting His presence even in chaos.
The Holy Spirit is not just a force but a divine coach, guiding you from misknowing to knowing through intuition, stillness, and surrender.
You were created with the ability to perceive truth—your 'first sense'—and it can be trained like a muscle through faith and practice.
To 'go rogue' means living with radical freedom and optimistic expectation, not because the world is safe, but because you’re anchored in God’s love.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Weight of Uncertainty After a Powerful Season
“I was expecting to do as I have done in previous years is to like log on social media and like relive all of these moments with the people who were in the room. The only thing is I wasn't reliving it with the people who were in the room. I was reliving it with the people who were in the room and the people who were outside of the room, you know, hearing things about what took place in the room and making judgments and statements about what took place in the room.”
A Listener’s Cry: Losing Her Spark After Betrayal
“I want you to stop grieving the spark that you lost so that you can see the spark that can exist now.”
The Anatomy of Knowing: From Misknowing to Divine Perception
“You were created in the context of knowing. We were set. We were in uninterrupted relationship with God. We had the omniscient one as our teacher, which means that to a certain degree, we were tapped into knowing.”
Unwrapping the Mummy: Letting Go as Liberation
Using the powerful metaphor of a mummy, Touré explains how we become wrapped in past experiences, roles, and pain—preventing us from becoming who God created us to be. True freedom comes not from clinging to the past, but from unbecoming so we can become anew.
The Holy Spirit as Coach: Training Your Inner Compass
The hosts emphasize that the Holy Spirit is not just a presence but a divine coach—God’s guarantee of our transformation. They discuss how to create space for divine impressions, surrendering our fixed ideas to make room for God’s voice and guidance.
“You were created in the context of knowing. We were set. We were in uninterrupted relationship with God.”
“You're not an A, B, C, D, E, F choice. Before God put you in your mother's womb, God knew you.”
“The best of your life is not behind you—it’s unfolding. Stay radically free and expect unprecedented outcomes.”
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Sarah Jakes Roberts
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Ella Roberts
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Honey Love
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