Wonderful! 413: In Thickness and In Health

Wonderful!35mApril 8, 2026

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In this vibrant episode of Wonderful!, Rachel and Griffin McElroy dive into a mix of personal reflections, nostalgic pop culture, and heartfelt connections. They begin by riffing on their own podcasting habits, joking about the need to streamline their long-winded introductions, and celebrate the intimacy of their 'small wonders' segment. Rachel shares her joy in discovering a 'Welcome. Everything is fine.' sign from The Good Place, which resonated with her therapist, while Griffin recounts how a Pokemon-stickered mug helped ease his son Henry’s anxiety at the orthodontist—highlighting the deep, formative role Pokémon plays in their family life. The duo then pivot to a nostalgic deep dive into 1980s and 90s novelty landline phones, exploring their cultural roots in the deregulation of AT&T and the explosion of creative phone designs like the Garfield, Bart Simpson, and ALF models. They marvel at the whimsy and absurdity of these phones, imagining how they’d look in a modern Apple-style product reveal. The episode culminates in a passionate recommendation of Korean singer-songwriter Gina (J-E-E-N-A), whose new single 'Flood' blends grungy rock, 90s pop energy, and a powerful, brassy voice, drawing comparisons to Duncan Sheik and Shania Twain. The hosts also share listener-submitted small wonders—finishing a dip and its vehicle at once, and the magic of soaking a grimy dish—and reflect on how their podcast serves as a therapeutic space for their marriage, offering a rare moment of uninterrupted conversation amid the chaos of parenting. The episode closes with a playful, poetic sign-off: 'In thickness and in health,' a phrase that encapsulates both the physical weight of their final Adventure Zone graphic novel and the emotional depth of their journey together.

Key Takeaways
1

Small wonders—like a shared sign, a child’s comfort object, or finishing a dip and cracker at once—can create profound moments of connection and joy.

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The deregulation of AT&T in 1982 led to a creative explosion in novelty phone design, making the 80s and 90s a golden age of quirky, character-based phones.

3

Gina (J-E-E-N-A) is a rising Korean artist whose music blends 90s rock, grunge, and pop with a powerful, brassy voice—worth discovering early.

4

Parenting chaos makes uninterrupted conversation rare; podcasts like Wonderful! serve as a vital, therapeutic space for couples to connect.

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The phrase 'In thickness and in health' is both a playful outro and a metaphor for the physical and emotional weight of creative legacy.

Chapters
0:00
5 min

The Podcast's Heart: Small Wonders and Authenticity

I think the first thing we can clean up for the spring cleaning Honda sales event is this beleaguered introduction.

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5:00
7 min

The Power of Shared Nostalgia: Pokemon and Therapists

He is correcting my pronunciations. He is correcting my, which is wild, right?

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12:00
8 min

Hockey’s Last Stand: The Blues’ Playoff Push

The hosts passionately discuss the St. Louis Blues’ desperate playoff hopes, focusing on Robert Thomas’s breakout hat trick against the Colorado Avalanche. They explore the team’s chemistry, the emotional stakes, and the unique culture of hockey—where fights are used to shift momentum and the net is deceptively tiny.

20:00
10 min

Novelty Phones: A Cultural Artifact of Deregulation

You talk into his butt, guys. And you'd hold up the whole Bart Simpson.

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30:00
5 min

Discovering Gina: A Hidden Gem of 90s-Inspired Rock

It's great. Let's play a little bit of that just to bookend this segment.

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High-Impact Quotes
You talk into his butt, guys. And you'd hold up the whole Bart Simpson.
Rachel McElroy16:29
Viral: 95.0
In thickness and in health.
Griffin McElroy36:01
Viral: 92.0
He is correcting my pronunciations. He is correcting my, which is wild, right?
Griffin McElroy4:34
Viral: 90.0
Speakers

Hosts

Rachel McElroyGriffin McElroy
Topics Discussed
Small Wonders95%Music Discovery and Artist Spotlight90%Therapeutic Communication88%Nostalgia and Cultural Memory85%Consumer Culture and Design82%Parenting and Family Life80%Hockey and Sports Culture75%Pop Culture History70%
People & Brands

Rachel McElroy

person

25xPositive

Griffin McElroy

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24xPositive

Gina

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15xPositive

Pokemon

other

12xPositive

St. Louis Blues

other

8xPositive

AT&T

organization

7xNeutral

Robert Thomas

person

6xPositive

Bart Simpson

other

5xPositive

Colorado Avalanche

other

4xNeutral

Garfield

other

4xPositive

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