Elle McNicoll, author of 'Unapologetic Love Story' - Carnegie Award nominated writer discusses making your book stand out, the importance of representation, and being full-time whilst never having time to write
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In this episode of Writer's Routine, host Dan Simpson sits down with Elle McNichol, a four-time Carnegie Award-nominated author and best-selling writer of children's fiction, now making her debut in adult literature with 'Unapologetic Love Story.' Elle discusses her unique journey into publishing—pitching her first novel not through traditional queries, but by presenting a data-driven report on the lack of neurodivergent representation in children's books to a small publisher, who then offered her a contract. She shares her writing process, including her 'Wikipedia cheat sheet' method for plotting, her preference for Microsoft Word and physical notebooks, and her disciplined daily word count goal of 1,000 words. A key theme is the tension between being a full-time author and the reality that she often has almost no time to write due to constant events, media appearances, and promotional demands. Elle also opens up about how her autism shapes her work—both as a strength in deep focus and concentration, and a challenge in public-facing roles. She emphasizes the importance of authentic representation, especially for autistic women, and how her own experiences with misrepresentation in literature fueled her desire to write honest, nuanced stories. The episode concludes with insights into her new adult novel, inspired by real-life school visits and media junkets, and her vision for future work that explores neurodivergence through more coded, subtle storytelling. Elle’s story is a powerful testament to the value of authenticity, the quiet revolution of underrepresented voices, and the emotional labor behind the scenes of a successful writing career. Her candid reflections on mental health, social media’s impact on creativity, and the need to protect creative space offer practical and deeply human advice for writers. The episode underscores that great writing often comes not from perfection, but from persistence, honesty, and the courage to write stories that only you can tell—especially when they’re about being unapologetically yourself.
Pitch your idea with data and passion—Elle secured her first book deal not through queries, but by presenting a compelling report on neurodivergent representation in children's books.
Protect your creative space: avoid social media during writing sprints to prevent your imagination from misreading real-world content as personal narratives.
Use a 'Wikipedia cheat sheet' to plan your novel—write a brief, no-frills synopsis of key plot points to guide your drafting process.
Write for the readers you’ve already met: Elle didn’t write her adult novel to 'grow up' with her young readers, but because she saw neurodivergent adults at her events who needed stories for them.
Autism can be a superpower in writing: deep focus, obsessive attention to detail, and a rich inner world fuel powerful storytelling.
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Elle McNichol: From Autistic Writer to Carnegie Award Nominee
“I didn't pitch this to my agent and say, I think now that some of the kids have grown up, we should do an adult book. I just thought, hey, we've got lots of adults that come to these events. Maybe some of them would like a book of their own.”
The Office: Chaos, Tactility, and the 'Wikipedia Cheat Sheet'
“I call it the Wikipedia cheat sheet because it's like when you look up a film synopsis on Wikipedia and it gives you a very brief, a very brief rundown. And that's sort of what I do for the novel.”
The Writing Day: Warm-Ups, Word Counts, and No Social Media
“I have a no social media rule... because that imagination is still firing and it starts to read things from subtexts that don't exist.”
Neurodivergence and the Writing Process
“When I'm in the office writing the book, I feel very peaceful and I feel finally in a weird way, I almost feel, oh, this is how other people must feel a lot of the time.”
“I have a no social media rule... because that imagination is still firing and it starts to read things from subtexts that don't exist.”
“I thought I can't let this propaganda continue. And so when I was in my 20s, my first novel was about being autistic and it wasn't the plot, but it was exploring it in a way that I felt was more honest.”
“I didn't pitch this to my agent and say, I think now that some of the kids have grown up, we should do an adult book. I just thought, hey, we've got lots of adults that come to these events. Maybe some of them would like a book of their own.”
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