Jon Jones’ Gable Steveson Secret Changes EVERYTHING - And Chael Calls Out Islam

You're Welcome! With Chael Sonnen33mJune 2, 2026
AI-Generated Summary

Chael Sonnen delivers a blistering, insight-packed episode of *You're Welcome!* dissecting the seismic shift in MMA's power dynamics, starting with the unexpected authenticity of Jon Jones' mentorship of Gable Steveson at Real American Freestyle. Far from a transactional relationship, Sonnen observes a genuine, emotionally resonant bond—Jones visibly moved by fan adoration and looking fitter than ever, hinting at a possible return. He then pivots to the strategic chess game around Arman Tsarukyan, whose relentless schedule and promotional savvy position him as a potential game-changer, especially if he’s used to set up a high-stakes trilogy with Ilya Klimenko and Islam. The episode’s centerpiece is Eddie Hearn’s public challenge to Dana White: to release Tom Aspinall so Hearn can pay him three times what Dana does. Sonnen dismantles the logic, revealing the move is less about money and more about leverage—Hearn is using Aspinall as a pawn in a high-stakes game of contract manipulation, exploiting legal loopholes while publicly claiming he can’t act. Finally, Sonnen confronts a glaring contradiction in Islam’s stance: one year ago, he refused to fight Ilya Teporia at 155 pounds, calling it unfair. Now, he’s demanding Ilya come to 70 pounds—same fighter, same rules, but reversed. Sonnen calls out the hypocrisy, arguing Islam’s shift isn’t about fairness, but about redemption and image control after publicly declining the fight.

Key Takeaways
1

Jon Jones looked genuinely emotional and physically fit at Real American Freestyle, suggesting a possible return to competition, not retirement.

2

Gable Steveson and Jon Jones share a real, non-transactional mentor-athlete bond, not a publicity stunt.

3

Arman Tsarukyan’s consistent training schedule across disciplines makes him a strategic wildcard for future UFC matchups.

4

Eddie Hearn’s claim to pay Tom Aspinall three times Dana White’s salary is a public bluff—Hearn could book Aspinall anywhere, but uses contract clauses as leverage.

5

Tom Aspinall is being used as a pawn in a high-stakes game between Hearn and Dana White, not a genuine career move.

…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus

Chapters
0:02
6 min

Jon Jones & Gable Steveson: A Genuine Mentorship

This wasn't a normal experience for him. I could tell from a very sincere standpoint that this was touching. To Jon Jones.

Highlight
6:29
5 min

Arman Tsarukyan’s Strategic Value & the Ilya-Islam Dynamic

Armin versus Ilya, though, to me, that sounds right. Oh, and by the way, to me is very likely to be the biggest event of the year.

Highlight
11:25
7 min

Eddie Hearn’s Chess Game with Dana White

Eddie has grabbed Tom as a pawn. And I would be curious how Eddie gets paid. I'm not convinced he does.

Highlight
18:20
7 min

The Hypocrisy of Islam’s Weight Class Shift

You're now suggesting those rules. You're the one suggesting he come. What's different now? All right, I've had it with you all.

Highlight
25:13
8 min

Pierre’s Size Increase & the Real Fight Story

Sonnen addresses Joe Rogan’s concern about Alex Pereira’s speed at heavyweight, arguing that Pereira has trained at 242 pounds for years—so no surprise in performance. He also highlights that fans have ignored the real stakes: what happens if Justin Gaethje wins?

High-Impact Quotes
Hey, this wasn't a normal experience for him. I could tell from a very sincere standpoint that this was touching. To Jon Jones.
Chael Sonnen2:55
Armin versus Ilya, though, to me, that sounds right. Oh, and by the way, to me is very likely to be the biggest event of the year.
Chael Sonnen14:00
Two of our industry's elites are playing a game of chess and Eddie has grabbed Tom as a pawn. And I would be curious how Eddie gets paid. I'm not convinced he does.
Chael Sonnen20:15
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