Embedding green practices into your business – a conversation with Lisa Lawson, Dear Green Coffee Roasters
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In this episode of the Fifth Wave podcast, host Geoffrey Young sits down with Lisa Lawson, founder of Dear Green Coffee Roasters in Glasgow, to explore how sustainability and social responsibility can be deeply embedded into a coffee business. Lisa shares her journey from a chef in Glasgow to a pioneering figure in Scotland’s specialty coffee scene, inspired by her early days working with Toby Smith at Toby’s Estate in Sydney. She recounts founding Dear Green in 2011 with a mission to bring flavour-led, sustainably sourced coffee to her community, evolving it into a B Corp-certified business with a strong focus on environmental stewardship, equity, and transparency. The conversation dives into practical steps for reducing carbon emissions—from switching to LED lighting and optimizing roasting protocols to sourcing renewable energy and eliminating landfill waste. Lisa also discusses the importance of 'travel with purpose,' investing in projects like the Stumping Project in Ethiopia and seedling initiatives in Uganda, which support farmers through climate resilience and long-term sustainability. Her insights emphasize that true impact comes from consistent action, stakeholder accountability, and a commitment to continuous improvement. Key takeaways include the importance of measuring carbon emissions across all scopes, adopting a stakeholder-first legal structure (as required by B Corp certification), building long-term relationships with producers through direct trade and due diligence, and investing in community-driven projects that go beyond fair pricing. Lisa stresses that sustainability isn’t a one-time effort but a culture of ongoing learning and adaptation. Her advice to aspiring coffee entrepreneurs is to act now, embrace the journey, and find your niche in the industry. The episode closes with a powerful reminder that the coffee community’s collective advocacy and shared knowledge are essential for systemic change in the global coffee supply chain.
Measure your carbon footprint across scopes 1, 2, and 3 to identify reduction opportunities.
Adopt a stakeholder-first legal structure (e.g., B Corp certification) to align business purpose with environmental and social responsibility.
Reduce waste by diverting all materials from landfill—use recycling, repurposing, and energy recovery.
Invest in origin projects with purpose: visit farms, support climate-resilient farming, and ensure long-term impact.
Build long-term, transparent relationships with producers through direct trade, due diligence, and fair pricing.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Philosophy of Stakeholder Responsibility
“Your stakeholders are your people, your staff, your customers, your local community, your international community, everyone and everything around you, the environment, everything that you have responsibility for and interaction with.”
From Chef to Coffee Roaster: A Journey of Purpose
Lisa traces her path from Glasgow to Sydney, where she joined Toby Smith’s early team at Toby’s Estate, sparking her passion for single-origin coffee. This experience led her to launch Dear Green in 2011 with a mission to bring quality, sustainable coffee to Glasgow.
B Corp Certification: A Framework for Sustainable Growth
“B Corp has standards for everything within it and really helps you understand that, but to do it the best way.”
Carbon Reduction and Waste Elimination in Roastery Operations
“Reduce is the main thing. You're measuring your carbon because you really want to have a figure to find out how many tons of carbon are you emitting from your business.”
Travel with Purpose: Building Equity in the Coffee Supply Chain
“It's not about supplying the seedlings or walking away. So it's really working to see how this community can be supported going forward.”
“It's not about supplying the seedlings or walking away. So it's really working to see how this community can be supported going forward.”
“Your stakeholders are your people, your staff, your customers, your local community, your international community, everyone and everything around you, the environment, everything that you have responsibility for and interaction with.”
“Reduce is the main thing. You're measuring your carbon because you really want to have a figure to find out how many tons of carbon are you emitting from your business.”
Host
Guest
Lisa Lawson
person
Dear Green Coffee Roasters
organization
B Corp
organization
Toby Smith
person
Glasgow
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Toby's Estate
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Ethiopia
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Uganda
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Stumping Project
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World Coffee Research
organization
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