Birthright Citizenship Oral Arguments
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The Advisory Opinions podcast delivers a live analysis of the Supreme Court's oral argument in Trump v. Barbara, a landmark case challenging the president's executive order to end birthright citizenship. Hosts Sarah Isger and David French are joined by Stanford Law Professor Amanda Tyler and Yale Law Professor Akilah Mar, who both filed amicus briefs. The episode dissects the legal and political implications of the argument, highlighting the administration's uphill battle due to textual, statutory, and constitutional hurdles. Key moments include Justice Alito’s extensive questioning, the ACLU’s advocate Cecilia Wong struggling with originalist arguments, and the court’s apparent focus on the 14th Amendment’s original public meaning. The hosts and guests agree that the justices showed deep engagement, with little discussion of the statutory framework—suggesting a likely 9-0 or 8-1 decision striking down the executive order. The episode also explores the irony of a conservative administration seeking prospective-only rulings, contrasting with past conservative opposition to such rulings. The presence of President Trump in the courtroom adds political tension, but the justices appear insulated from external pressure. The hosts conclude that while the outcome is likely predictable, the court may issue a narrow opinion to avoid future challenges, and they warn that presidential attacks on the court only reinforce its independence.
The administration’s executive order to end birthright citizenship faces near-certain defeat due to overwhelming textual and historical evidence supporting the 14th Amendment’s original public meaning.
The lack of discussion about the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act during oral argument suggests the court may rule on statutory grounds, potentially avoiding a broad constitutional ruling.
Justice Alito’s extensive questioning, while sympathetic to the administration, may signal a strategic effort to find a narrow path rather than a full-throated endorsement of the executive order.
The court’s focus on the word 'domicile' and the absence of 'parent' or 'allegiance' in the 14th Amendment and statute underscores the textualist argument against the administration’s position.
Presidential attacks on the court, such as Trump’s characterization of justices as 'dumb,' may backfire by reinforcing the court’s independence and legitimacy.
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Live Post-Argument Analysis: The High Stakes of Birthright Citizenship
“The administration had to bat a thousand here. One, you have the meaning of the 14th Amendment when it's ratified in 1868, all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens.”
Justice Alito’s Strategic Questioning and the Dual Allegiance Hypothesis
“The argument was made by the Native Sons to the same judges, both at the district and the appellate level who presided over Fred Korematsu's criminal prosecution... and yet the argument in the Regan case was literally laughed out of court.”
The ACLU’s Struggle with Originalism and the Power of the 14th Amendment
“The lawyer for the ACLU says, no, we need to go with original public meaning. And that might have been, the most effective part of our entire argument because she really caught the administration with a kind of living constitutionalism.”
The Court’s Silence on Statutory Grounds: A Telling Omission
The hosts emphasize the surprising lack of discussion about the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act, which codifies birthright citizenship. They argue this omission strongly suggests the court will strike down the order on statutory grounds.
The Role of Domicile and the Absence of ‘Parent’ in the Text
The episode explores the legal and practical implications of the term 'domicile' and why the absence of 'parent' or 'allegiance' in the 14th Amendment and statute undermines the administration’s argument.
“John Roberts, it's a new world. It's the same constitution. It's the same constitution.”
“The argument was made by the Native Sons to the same judges, both at the district and the appellate level who presided over Fred Korematsu's criminal prosecution... and yet the argument in the Regan case was literally laughed out of court.”
“The lawyer for the ACLU says, no, we need to go with original public meaning. And that might have been, the most effective part of our entire argument because she really caught the administration with a kind of living constitutionalism.”
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