Eric Metaxas Talks to John Zmirak and Sidney Powell. Voter Fraud, Revolution, the Next form of Government for the U.S.

American Conservative University44mMay 12, 2026

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In this episode of American Conservative University, Eric Metaxas hosts a dual conversation with John Zmirak and Sidney Powell, tackling the spiritual and political crisis facing the United States. Metaxas opens with a fiery critique of the Met Gala as 'demonic,' then launches into a scathing analysis of Tucker Carlson’s recent interview with a New York Times reporter, accusing him of deliberate deception and spiritual corruption. He argues that Carlson’s increasingly conspiratorial rhetoric—such as suggesting Trump might be the Antichrist—signals a deeper spiritual surrender, possibly to 'perfect possession' as described by theologian Malachi Martin. Drawing parallels to Hitler’s alleged possession, Metaxas frames Carlson’s behavior as a symptom of a broader cultural and spiritual collapse. He and Zmirak then delve into the foundational Christian roots of America, arguing that the nation was not a 'propositional' experiment but a covenant with God, rooted in biblical principles. They condemn modern education systems for erasing this history, citing Howard Zinn’s 'People’s History' and the 1619 Project as deliberate anti-American propaganda. Zmirak emphasizes that America’s survival depends on a virtuous, faith-driven citizenry, and warns that without it, democracy cannot endure. Sidney Powell follows, asserting that the 2020 election was stolen through widespread fraud involving voting machines and mail-in ballots. She claims overwhelming evidence was suppressed by the DOJ, Supreme Court, and judiciary, despite multiple federal filings. She blames institutional betrayal—particularly by figures like Bill Barr and John Roberts—for allowing a coup to go unchallenged, and calls for public awareness and action through her website, defendingtherepublic.org. The episode concludes with a call to reclaim America’s Christian heritage and fight for truth and liberty.

Key Takeaways
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America was founded on a biblical covenant with God, not a political theory, and its survival depends on this spiritual foundation.

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Tucker Carlson’s rhetoric suggests a spiritual decline, possibly indicative of 'perfect possession'—a demonic surrender rather than mere political extremism.

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Modern education systems are systematically erasing America’s Christian origins, replacing them with Marxist and anti-American narratives like the 1619 Project.

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The 2020 election was stolen through widespread fraud involving voting machines, mail-in ballots, and coordinated suppression of evidence.

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The DOJ, Supreme Court, and Congress failed in their duties by suppressing evidence and protecting the status quo, enabling a coup of the presidency.

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Chapters
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10 min

The Demonic Met Gala and Tucker Carlson's Spiritual Collapse

He's not even that good at lying. When he doesn't control the microphone, when he is not totally in charge, he makes a fool of himself.

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10:00
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The Theology of Possession and the Fall of America’s Elite

Metaxas and Zmirak explore the Catholic concept of 'perfect possession'—where a soul willingly accepts a demon—using Hitler as a historical example. They argue that Tucker Carlson’s transformation mirrors this pattern, and that the decline of the WASP elite has created a spiritual vacuum exploited by anti-Christian forces.

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10 min

America’s Founding Was a Covenant, Not a Theory

If there's no God, all that falls apart. And it is false. And the country goes away. We're seeing it go away.

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10 min

The Erasure of American History and the Rise of Anti-American Narratives

The 1619 Project is this crackpot conspiracy theory invented by one bad hack journalist saying the U.S. was founded as a conspiracy to keep slavery going.

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10 min

The 2020 Election Was Stolen: Evidence and Institutional Betrayal

We had more evidence then and even now than most people who are convicted and are in prison are there because of.

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High-Impact Quotes
The 1619 Project is this crackpot conspiracy theory invented by one bad hack journalist saying the U.S. was founded as a conspiracy to keep slavery going.
Eric Metaxas28:47
Viral: 95.0
If there's no God, all that falls apart. And it is false. And the country goes away. We're seeing it go away.
John Zmirak20:14
Viral: 90.0
The Supreme Court failed. They put their heads in the sand. The Department of Justice, even under Trump, put its head in the sand.
Eric Metaxas40:57
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Eric Metaxas

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John ZmirakSidney Powell
Topics Discussed
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