Is Waymo's Lead Becoming Insurmountable?
Waymo's deployment of the Chinese-made Zeekr Ojai vehicles is accelerating, but political and regulatory divides are creating a stark split in where they operate—blue and purple states versus red states like Texas, where Governor Abbott is unlikely to allow Chinese-made AVs. Despite this, Waymo is on track to reach 6,000 vehicles by year-end, growing at ~250 per month, a pace that’s not about volume but about proving out technology at scale. The real metric isn’t fleet size, but wait times—those remain low, signaling operational maturity. Meanwhile, competitors like Tesla are stuck at 42 vehicles in Texas, with no buzz, no real scale, and frustrating software updates. Nuro and AV Ride show modest progress, but AV Ride’s 317 vehicles claim is widely dismissed as implausible. The trucking segment is quietly gaining momentum, with Aurora leading, but it’s still underfunded and under-recognized. Even labs like Wave Labs are seen as vanity plays—more about valuation than real progress. The most damning critique? Zoox, backed by Amazon, is getting outsized goodwill despite being the worst-performing AV on the road. The episode ends with a sobering truth: Waymo’s lead isn’t just in cars—it’s in control of the narrative, the regulatory playbook, and the long-term vision. The race isn’t about who has the most vehicles today, but who will own the future of mobility when the real scale arrives.
Waymo’s fleet growth is accelerating at ~250 vehicles per month, with 6,000 vehicles projected by year-end—driven by Chinese-made Zeekr Ojai deployments.
Waymo’s true lead isn’t in vehicle count but in wait times and operational maturity—low wait times signal a proven, scalable system.
Political divides are real: Chinese-made Ojai vehicles are being deployed only in blue/purple states, not red states like Texas, where Governor Abbott will likely block them.
AV Ride’s claim of 317 vehicles in Texas is widely dismissed as implausible—likely includes delivery bots without VINs, not road-ready AVs.
Tesla’s Texas deployment is minimal (42 vehicles), lacks public buzz, and faces software issues—navigation is worsening, not improving.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Waymo's Ojai Rollout and the China Factor
“Yes, it is still an unforced error. And I stand by that. If you look at the announcements where Waymo is going to deploy them, California, blue state, Arizona, purple state. What's missing? Red state.”
Political Geography of AV Deployment
The hosts analyze how state politics are shaping AV rollout—Ojais are likely restricted to blue/purple states, while Jaguars may be reserved for red states until Hyundai vehicles arrive.
Waymo's Growth Rate and the Wait Time Metric
“Watch for wait times. As more vehicles get added to the fleet and more cities come online do wait times continuously stay low? That is the thing to watch for.”
The Illusion of Scale: Tesla and Nuro
Tesla’s 42 vehicles in Texas are dwarfed by Waymo’s 577. Nuro’s 47 in Houston is modest. AV Ride’s 317 vehicles claim is questioned as implausible.
Trucking as the Hidden Frontier
Aurora leads in trucking with 91 vehicles. The segment is underfunded but poised for a breakthrough, with Daimler and International showing signs of commitment.
“Yes, it is still an unforced error. And I stand by that. If you look at the announcements where Waymo is going to deploy them, California, blue state, Arizona, purple state. What's missing? Red state.”
“literally the worst experience of the autonomy cars and trucks that I've been in. So it's just, it's bizarre that they're getting cut so much slack”
“They're still in the prove out the technology mode. And at the same time, getting a lead on any of the competition out there, whether it's Tesla”
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