Olivia Wilde: Dating, Double Standards & Dealing with Scrutiny
Olivia Wilde opens up about the crushing weight of public scrutiny, revealing how a four-year media firestorm—centered on her appearance, relationships, and parenting—forced her to retreat into silence and rebuild herself. She describes the surreal experience of being misrepresented in tabloids, served legal papers on stage, and subjected to viral ridicule over a single photo that made her look like a 'shrunken corpse.' Yet, she reframes this trauma not as defeat but as transformation: 'Rock bottom is just a place to jump off from.' Her journey through therapy, self-reflection, and vulnerability led her to direct her most personal film yet—a nuanced exploration of modern relationships, inspired by Esther Perel’s work, which examines how love dies not from passion’s end, but from the failure to actively engage in it. The film, which features Penelope Cruz channeling Perel’s voice, confronts taboo topics like menopause, sexual desire, and the double standards women face when dating younger men or moving on after divorce. Wilde argues that the real power lies not in being unapologetic, but in staying soft—vulnerable, authentic, and emotionally available—because that’s where true strength lives.
Public scrutiny can feel like a tornado outside your door while your private life remains peaceful and joyful.
The most powerful form of resistance to media attacks is not defiance, but vulnerability—saying 'this hurts' without shame.
You can rebuild yourself after public destruction by treating rock bottom as a launchpad, not a tomb.
Love dies not from lack of passion, but from the failure to actively engage in curiosity and emotional connection.
Women are judged for being sexual after motherhood, while men are celebrated for it—this is a societal betrayal.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Welcome to the Conversation
Alex Cooper welcomes Olivia Wilde to Call Her Daddy, expressing deep admiration for her career and influence on conversations about women, relationships, and motherhood. The episode begins with a personal anecdote of Alex watching Wilde’s new film while in bed with pregnancy snacks.
The Power of Esther Perel
“I read Mating in Captivity 20 years ago. And it blew my mind and I was immediately drawn to her and her completely original perspective on relationships and on individuality within relationships.”
The Film That Was Born from Pain
“Love is a verb. It is something you have to continue to engage in.”
Growing Up in a House of Truth
Wilde reflects on her upbringing with journalist parents who valued curiosity, debate, and honesty. Her mother, a war correspondent, taught her to be fearless and unapologetic, even when facing judgment for being a working mother.
The Unapologetic Rebel
“I believe her. I'm with her. That changes everything.”
“wrote to me and she said, the most rebellious thing you can do is stay soft. Don't let it harden you.”
“And I was like, oh man, did you see this thing? And he was like, no, what? And I was like, look at this thing. And I showed him and he did a full spit take that he was like Leave it to a brother.”
“That's the thing that, like if you can, if you can grow older and stay hopeful in every way about everything, then you've really won, right?”
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Olivia Wilde
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Alex Cooper
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Esther Perel
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Jason Sudeikis
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Seth Rogen
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The OC
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Call Her Daddy
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Penelope Cruz
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Mating in Captivity
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Booksmart
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