Talking Dateline: The Devil Wore White - Update
Sante Kimes, a criminal mastermind who orchestrated a decades-long spree of fraud, murder, and deception with her sons, remains one of true crime’s most chilling figures — not for her violence alone, but for her ability to manipulate reality, charm authorities, and turn her family into a crime syndicate. In this update, Dateline reveals how a cold case from Costa Rica — the disappearance of Elmer Holmgren — was finally solved over two decades later using genealogy DNA, identifying the victim through a distant cousin and confirming that Sante and her son Kenny were behind the murder. The episode explores the psychological grip Sante had on her children, particularly Kenny, who confessed to multiple murders to protect her, and Kent, who broke free but still carries the emotional weight of his brother’s fate. The story raises haunting questions about nature versus nurture, the limits of redemption, and whether someone like Sante could thrive in today’s digital age — where every transaction leaves a trace. Despite her charisma and cunning, the truth is now catching up to her legacy. The episode also unpacks the cultural fascination with true crime, especially among women, who are disproportionately affected by violent crime and thus drawn to its resolution. Viewers are left grappling with the moral ambiguity of Sante’s sons: one a confessed killer, the other a man trying to rebuild his life while haunted by his past.
Sante Kimes was a psychopath by nature, not nurture — she showed no remorse, manipulated everyone, and was born with a chilling lack of empathy.
Kenny Kimes confessed to multiple murders to protect his mother, proving the depth of her psychological control over him.
Genealogy DNA solved a 20-year-old cold case in Costa Rica, identifying Elmer Holmgren’s body and confirming Sante and Kenny were responsible.
Modern forensic tools like DNA genealogy are now solving cold cases that were once unsolvable, even when victims were buried in dumpsters.
Kent Walker, the older son, broke free from his mother’s influence but still struggles with guilt and unresolved trauma.
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The Devil Wore White: A Story of Two Killers
“This is less about killer and victim and more about killer and killer. And it's a crazy, crazy story. That's exactly what it is. The craziest story ever.”
Sante Kimes: Charisma as a Weapon
Keith Morrison describes Sante Kimes as a master manipulator — charming, glamorous, and capable of fooling the Vice President and the UN. Her ability to lie, steal, and charm her way through life made her nearly untouchable.
The Crime Machine: Fraud, Murder, and Deception
The episode details how Sante and Kenny committed crimes not for money, but to cover up fraud, insurance scams, and check kiting. The murder of Irene Silverman was not about gain, but about taking over her valuable property.
The Psychological Grip: Mother and Son
The emotional manipulation Sante exerted on Kenny is explored — how she coddled him, isolated him, and made him her emotional and criminal partner. Kent, the older brother, broke free, but still feels guilt and confusion.
Kenny’s Confession and the Illusion of Redemption
Kenny’s recent interview reveals a man trying to appear remorseful, but his focus on raising a million dollars for education feels performative. Keith questions whether his remorse is real or just a survival tactic.
“And they found some distant cousins and eventually made their way to Ken Holmgren in Texas, who is the son of Elmer Holmgren. And he, Ken, sees these autopsy photos and immediately IDs him as his dad.”
“This is less about killer and victim and more about killer and killer. And it's a crazy, crazy story. That's exactly what it is. The craziest story ever.”
“Once Shante Kimes got in your blood, she never laughed. Never completely.”
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Sante Kimes
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Keith Morrison
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Kenny Kimes
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Kent Walker
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Dateline NBC
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Josh Mankiewicz
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FBI
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Ann Priceman
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Elmer Holmgren
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NBC News
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