David Pocock on getting a fair return for Australian gas
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Independent ACT Senator David Pocock joins the Australia Institute's Richard Dennis and Leanne Minchel to argue that Australia is being systematically shortchanged by its current gas taxation system. Despite being the world's second-largest LNG exporter, Australia collects minimal revenue from offshore gas exports—less than what is collected from beer excise and visa fees. Pocock and the panel highlight the failure of the Petroleum Resource Rent Tax (PRRT), which was designed as a windfall tax but has generated almost no revenue due to complex loopholes and deliberate design. They argue that a 25% gas export tax would be simple, hard to avoid, and would drive down domestic gas prices by incentivizing companies to sell locally. The discussion reveals deep public anger over the lack of returns on a finite national resource, with broad cross-party and public support for reform. The panel also exposes the gas industry’s aggressive lobbying, political inertia, and the irony that Japan—Australia’s largest gas importer—collects more revenue from Australian gas exports than the Australian government does. With a Senate inquiry imminent and growing pressure on the Albanese government, the episode calls for bold fiscal responsibility and a shift from 'giving away our wealth for free' to securing a fair return for all Australians.
Australia collects less in gas export tax than from beer excise and visa fees, despite being a top global LNG exporter.
The Petroleum Resource Rent Tax (PRRT) is a failed windfall tax that collects almost zero revenue due to deliberate loopholes.
A 25% gas export tax would raise significant revenue, lower domestic gas prices, and force companies to sell locally to avoid tax.
Japan earns more from taxing Australian gas exports than Australia does, and owns a larger stake in the industry than the Australian government.
The gas industry wields outsized influence through lobbying and threats, but public pressure is growing across the political spectrum.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Case for a Fair Return on Australian Gas
“I want a return every day. I want a return every single year. One for mum, one for dad and one for the country.”
The Failure of the Petroleum Resource Rent Tax
“The geniuses at Treasury said only a state government bureaucrat is so simplistic that they'd have a simple royalty. Let's have a complicated petroleum resource rent tax that collects nothing.”
How a 25% Export Tax Would Work
“The only way they'll be able to avoid a gas export tax is by selling it to us. Right? So by putting a tax on the exports, every gas company... will realise the only way they can make a bit more money is to sell it to us.”
The Political and Industry Resistance
“They're hoping you don't write to them all tomorrow. So, yeah, I think the major parties are feeling enormous pressure at the moment as they should.”
The Japan Paradox and Geopolitical Irony
“The Japanese government owns a bigger stake of the gas industry than the Australian government does. Japan's not worried that their price of gas is going to go up. Japan's worried that the profits they make selling our gas is going to go down.”
“The Japanese government owns a bigger stake of the gas industry than the Australian government does. Japan's not worried that their price of gas is going to go up. Japan's worried that the profits they make selling our gas is going to go down.”
“I want a return every day. I want a return every single year. One for mum, one for dad and one for the country.”
“The only way they'll be able to avoid a gas export tax is by selling it to us. Right? So by putting a tax on the exports, every gas company... will realise the only way they can make a bit more money is to sell it to us.”
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Richard Dennis
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Australia Institute
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Japan
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David Pocock
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Labor Party
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Treasury
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Leanne Minchel
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Santos
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Greens
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