Greens leader Larissa Waters on the housing crisis, gas exports & taxing the 1%

Follow The Money32mApril 29, 2026

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In this episode of Follow the Money, host Ebony Bennett interviews Australian Greens Leader and Senator for Queensland, Larissa Waters, about systemic inequality in Australia and the urgent need for tax reform. Waters argues that the current economic system overwhelmingly benefits the ultra-wealthy and large corporations at the expense of ordinary Australians, particularly in the face of a deepening housing crisis, soaring energy costs, and stagnant public services. She champions the Greens' 'Tax the 1%' campaign, proposing a wealth tax on billionaires and a minimum 25% export tax on gas companies to recoup windfall profits from global conflicts and reinvest in public goods. Drawing on international examples like Norway and Spain, Waters emphasizes that such reforms are both feasible and beneficial, debunking claims that they would harm industry. She also calls for an end to tax loopholes that favor property investors, such as negative gearing and capital gains tax discounts, which have exacerbated housing unaffordability. The episode underscores that the political will—not legislative barriers—is the main obstacle to reform, with the Greens ready to support progressive legislation if the government chooses to act. Waters envisions a future where tax revenues from the 1% fund universal public services: free public transport, free childcare, expanded Medicare to include dental and mental health, and a just transition to renewable energy. She stresses that these changes are not only economically viable but morally imperative, framing them as a way to restore faith in democracy and the 'fair go' ideal. The episode closes with a call to action, urging listeners to visit taxthe1%.com.au to learn how their income compares to billionaires and join the movement for a fairer tax system. The tone is urgent, hopeful, and politically charged, advocating for bold structural change to address entrenched inequality.

Key Takeaways
1

A 25% minimum export tax on gas could raise $17 billion annually and return value to Australians for their finite natural resources.

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One in three major corporations pay zero corporate tax due to loopholes, while billionaires add $600,000 to their wealth daily.

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The capital gains tax discount benefits the top 1% disproportionately (60%) and distorts housing markets, making home ownership unaffordable for most.

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Negative gearing and capital gains tax perks favor professional property investors over first-time buyers, worsening the housing crisis.

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Taxing the ultra-wealthy and big corporations could fund universal public services like free childcare, public transport, and expanded Medicare.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

The Case for Taxing the 1%

If we were to tax the 1%, those mega corporations and the billionaires, the ultra wealthy, we could raise so much money to invest in making people's lives easier.

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5:00
5 min

The Housing Crisis and Tax Loopholes

The tax system makes it easier for a professional property investor to buy their 60th house than it does for someone to buy their first.

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10:00
10 min

Gas Exports and Windfall Profits

Santos paid no company tax despite making over $8 billion in sales. It was the 10th year in a row that they'd paid no company tax.

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20:00
10 min

International Models and Industry Myths

Waters counters industry claims that taxing gas exports will destroy the sector by citing Norway as a successful example of a resource-rich nation with strong taxation and thriving industry. She debunks the myth that export taxes will harm trade, noting that companies like Shell and Origin have admitted they would absorb the cost.

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10 min

The Power of Public Services and Democracy

Extreme wealth is always an extreme power. It's the power to influence the prevailing ideology by buying newspapers, TV channels, radios.

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High-Impact Quotes
We could make childcare free. We could put dental and mental healthcare into Medicare so that you could actually get your teeth looked at.
Larissa Waters29:54
Viral: 92.0
If we were to tax the 1%, those mega corporations and the billionaires, the ultra wealthy, we could raise so much money to invest in making people's lives easier.
Larissa Waters0:00
Viral: 90.0
If we don't take action now, we're going to end up like America and then our kids and our friends will never have a chance to own their own home.
Larissa Waters26:47
Viral: 89.0
Speakers

Host

Ebony Bennett

Guest

Larissa Waters
Topics Discussed
Wealth Inequality95%Gas Export Tax93%Housing Affordability92%Tax Reform90%Corporate Tax Avoidance88%Public Services Funding87%Capital Gains Tax Discount86%Negative Gearing85%
People & Brands

Larissa Waters

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45xPositive

Greens

organization

15xPositive

Australia Institute

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8xPositive

Santos

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6xNegative

Norway

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4xPositive

Donald Trump

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3xNegative

Spain

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2xPositive

Woodside

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2xNegative

Shell

organization

2xNegative

Origin

organization

2xNegative

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