We All Hate Meetings—Here’s How to Make Them Work
Meetings aren't just a nuisance—they're a $870 billion productivity drain in the U.S., equivalent to 6% of GDP, according to Paul English, co-founder of Kayak and author of *The Meeting Book*. In a candid conversation with HBR IdeaCast hosts Adi Ignatius and Alison Beard, English argues that bad meetings aren’t just inefficient—they’re demoralizing, often driven by mid-level managers who equate meeting frequency with productivity. He reveals how Kayak turned meeting discipline into a competitive advantage: by limiting attendance, ending meetings early, banning PowerPoint, and assigning real ownership to junior team members. The real breakthrough? Meetings should be designed not just to decide, but to strengthen relationships and spark innovation. English warns that hybrid meetings fail when cameras are fixed on the room—everyone must be on their own laptop to feel equal. The most powerful intervention? CEOs should audit their calendars and use data to cancel half their meetings, as Booking.com’s CEO reportedly offered to pay for just such a tool. The episode ends with a call to action: measure meeting quality, train leaders, and treat meetings like strategic assets—not default rituals.
Cancel half your meetings: Booking.com’s CEO would pay to have a tool randomly delete half his meetings, proving that meeting volume is a key productivity bottleneck.
End meetings early: Scheduling for an hour but finishing in 20 minutes gives people 40 extra minutes to do real work—boosting morale and output.
No PowerPoint at Amazon: Require a six-page memo instead, so everyone arrives prepared and the meeting starts with deep discussion, not training.
Assign ownership in meetings: When someone speaks up, assign them the task to act—don’t let ideas die in committee.
Hybrid meetings fail when cameras are fixed: To make remote participants feel equal, everyone in the room must use their own laptop and mute microphones.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The $870 Billion Meeting Problem
“That's about $870 billion in the U.S. wasted in pointless meetings. That's about 6% of the U.S. GDP. Oof.”
Why Meetings Suck: Energy Drain and Bad Culture
Paul English explains that meetings fail because no one trains managers to run them. He shares personal anecdotes—like groaning at free pizza invites—as signs of meeting dread. The real cost isn’t just time, but morale and creative energy.
Kayak’s Meeting Revolution: Fewer, Smaller, Faster
“There's not one or two of you smart enough to do that? You need 10 of you?”
The Meeting as a Relationship Engine
English reframes meetings not just for decisions, but for improving relationships. He emphasizes observing dynamics—interrupting, eye-rolling, phone use—and ending on a positive, decisive note to build trust and momentum.
Best Practices from Amazon, LinkedIn, and Beyond
The episode explores how Amazon banned PowerPoint in favor of six-page memos, and how LinkedIn’s Reid Hoffman demanded honesty and debate in meetings. English stresses that while practices vary, core principles like agendas, small groups, and decisions are universal.
“He said, I'll tell you what, if I are using your software, you just randomly deleted half my meetings. I'll pay you whatever you want.”
“I'm like, there's not one or two of you smart enough to do that? You need 10 of you?”
“So my thing is if you're going to have a hybrid meeting where some people together and something remote make all the people in the room together, each have their laptop open, just mute their microphones.”
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