Menopause, Lyme & Functional Herbalism | Pam Gould
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In this deeply personal and insightful episode of the Herbalist Hour, host Mason interviews Pam Gould, a clinical herbalist with over two decades of experience, about her journey from a health crisis in her 30s to becoming a leading voice in functional herbalism. Pam recounts her initial collapse episodes—unexplained fainting spells dismissed by conventional medicine—and how she found healing through herbalism after being introduced to it by a friend. Her path led her to study with influential teachers like Michael Tierra, Patricia Curitzi Howell, and Hillary Thing, who trained her in treating complex chronic conditions like Lyme disease and its co-infections. Pam emphasizes that Lyme is not confined to the Northeast and stresses the importance of supporting the body’s terrain—its resilience, digestion, and immune function—over simply targeting pathogens. She shares her own transformative experience with menopause, which she describes as a 'second spring,' and reveals how her post-menopausal health dramatically declined despite being told by doctors it was just 'age.' This fueled her mission to empower midlife women with body literacy, challenging the medical system’s dismissal of their symptoms and advocating for holistic, individualized care. As a functional herbalist, she integrates traditional systems with modern tools like blood work and hair mineral analysis, always prioritizing the person over the diagnosis. Her work centers on community, ritual, and education, especially through her new 'Midlife Herbalist' classes. Pam also discusses the nuanced role of HRT, framing it not as a replacement but as one tool among many—herbs, food, lifestyle—in a layered approach to wellness. Her closing message is one of hope: that every woman can reclaim her health, her wisdom, and her joy in midlife and beyond.
Menopause is not a single day but a 12-month transition; it's a 'second spring' that deserves celebration and support, not shame.
Lyme disease is not limited to the Northeast—its presence is nationwide, and resilience of the host is key to managing it.
Functional herbalism blends traditional wisdom with modern diagnostics like blood work and hair mineral analysis to create personalized, proactive care.
HRT can be life-changing for some, but it's not a one-size-fits-all solution—herbs and lifestyle support are equally vital.
Body literacy empowers women to understand their changing bodies, challenge medical dismissal, and advocate for themselves.
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Introduction & Pam's Herbal Origins
“I went through the conventional medical system because honestly that's all I knew at the time and no one could explain what was happening.”
Mentors, Training & the Path to Clinical Practice
Pam details her formal education with the East West School of Herbology and her apprenticeship with Susan Kramer, which led to mentorship from Lorna Monte Brodick and Patricia Curitzi Howell. She reflects on how each teacher shaped her approach—Patricia bringing Western herbalism through the lens of five elements, and Hillary Thing training her in complex chronic conditions like Lyme. Pam emphasizes the importance of learning from multiple traditions and the value of hands-on experience.
Lyme Disease: Beyond the Pathogen
“It's not just about killing the pathogens... It's about the environment that allows those microbes to thrive.”
Menopause as a Second Spring
“I just simply refused to accept that that was the standard of care that women get at this stage of life.”
Functional Herbalism & Body Literacy
Pam defines herself as a functional herbalist, bridging traditional systems with modern tools like blood work and hair mineral analysis. She explains how she uses labs not to diagnose, but to guide proactive, individualized protocols. She emphasizes empowerment, teaching clients to understand their bodies and become their own advocates, especially in a culture that glorifies youth and stigmatizes aging.
“HRT is like you've moved into a new house, the moving people showed up and they put your boxes right in the middle of your living room. That's HRT. Whereas herbs are they take those moving boxes and they help distribute what's in the boxes to the right rooms to go where they want to be.”
“I just simply refused to accept that that was the standard of care that women get at this stage of life.”
“You're not broken. What's happening in your body is your body communicating to you.”
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