Advice Line with Steve Ells of Chipotle

How I Built This with Guy Raz42mApril 9, 2026

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In this episode of How I Built This Lab's Advice Line, host Guy Raz brings back Steve Ells, founder of Chipotle, to help listeners solve real-world business challenges. The first caller, Rebecca Smith from Streaky Bay, Australia, runs a small-batch distillery making gin, vodka, and whiskey using foraged local ingredients and a deep connection to her remote community. Steve advises her to double down on her unique story and place-based differentiation, suggesting she focus on her gin as a flagship product and explore U.S. markets through Australian bars in cities like Los Angeles and New York. The second caller, Sri Halima from London, founded MatZero, a company making energy-efficient, low-voltage heating mats for outdoor, humanitarian, and healthcare use. Steve and Guy encourage her to prioritize the outdoor enthusiast market to build a sustainable business while maintaining her mission, using partnerships and storytelling to scale. The final caller, John Rarick from Italy, owns Cantina di Rosina, a family-run organic winery in Abruzzo with a century-long legacy. Facing declining wine consumption and Gen Z disinterest, Steve suggests leveraging personal storytelling through a valuable newsletter, hosting exclusive events, and partnering with chefs and athletes to build emotional connections and brand loyalty. Steve reflects on his own journey, sharing that he would have prioritized work-life balance earlier in his career. The episode underscores the power of authenticity, storytelling, and focused differentiation in building resilient, mission-driven brands.

Key Takeaways
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Double down on your unique differentiator—Rebecca should focus her brand on her place-based gin and foraged ingredients.

2

Use storytelling to build emotional connection—John should leverage his family legacy and the story of Abruzzo to engage new audiences.

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Prioritize a high-margin, scalable market first—Sri should target outdoor enthusiasts to fund her humanitarian mission.

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Build relationships, not just transactions—Steve emphasizes that one-on-one customer experiences drive long-term brand loyalty.

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Balance mission and business—Sri can sustain her mission by scaling her for-profit side and donating a portion of profits.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

Introducing the Advice Line with Steve Ells

Guy Raz introduces the Advice Line segment and welcomes back Steve Ells, founder of Chipotle, to help listeners solve business challenges. The episode sets the stage for real-time advice from a legendary founder.

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10 min

Rebecca Smith: Differentiating a Remote Distillery

I think a brand that focuses on what they're best in the world at and has a product line that's cohesive might somehow resonate or be more impactful with customers than having well, we have some botanicals and then we also have a vodka and we also have a whiskey too.

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20:00
10 min

Sri Halima: Balancing Mission and Market

You can market to the enthusiast. They're certainly willing to buy your product and you let them know that not only are they getting something really great, but it's giving back to your cause.

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30:00
10 min

John Rarick: Reaching Gen Z with Legacy Wine

I think wine tends to be a very sort of personal experience for folks. And I think that avoiding traditional kinds of marketing probably makes it more authentic and more desirable.

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40:00
10 min

Steve Ells Reflects on Work-Life Balance

I would have tried to live a more balanced life. I think I was, it was a little insular also, right? It was just so focused and, and I, and I, and I argued that that, that was contributing to the success of the business. And I think, well, maybe, maybe I missed something.

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High-Impact Quotes
I would have tried to live a more balanced life. I think I was, it was a little insular also, right? It was just so focused and, and I, and I, and I argued that that, that was contributing to the success of the business. And I think, well, maybe, maybe I missed something.
Steve Ells40:10
Viral: 95.0
You can market to the enthusiast. They're certainly willing to buy your product and you let them know that not only are they getting something really great, but it's giving back to your cause.
Steve Ells22:25
Viral: 90.0
I think a brand that focuses on what they're best in the world at and has a product line that's cohesive might somehow resonate or be more impactful with customers than having well, we have some botanicals and then we also have a vodka and we also have a whiskey too.
Steve Ells11:44
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Guy Raz

Guest

Steve Ells
Topics Discussed
storytelling in branding95%brand differentiation90%work-life balance85%mission-driven business85%market focus and prioritization80%customer relationships80%sustainable business models75%product line simplification70%
People & Brands

Steve Ells

person

45xPositive

Guy Raz

person

30xPositive

Chipotle

brand

28xPositive

Streaky Bay Distillers

brand

15xPositive

MatZero

brand

14xPositive

Cantina di Rosina

brand

13xPositive

Rebecca Smith

person

12xPositive

How I Built This Lab

media

12xPositive

John Rarick

person

11xPositive

Sri Halima

person

10xPositive

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