LeBrun on Babcock's return to the NHL, the future with the Oilers and Pavelski's interview in Toronto
Pierre Lebrun breaks down the high-stakes coaching and roster moves shaping the NHL's offseason, starting with Dylan Larkin's impending free agency and the Red Wings' delicate negotiation with his agent. Lebrun predicts a major trade for Detroit, drawing a parallel to Steve Yzerman’s 2014 Marty St. Louis deal. He then shifts to the controversial return of Mike Babcock to the NHL, confirming that the Oilers have spoken with their leadership core—including Connor McDavid—about hiring him. However, the move hinges on NHLPA approval, which requires players to waive an investigation into Babcock’s departure from Columbus. Lebrun also reveals that Joe Pavelski is among five finalists for the Toronto Maple Leafs' head coaching job, calling him a 'brilliant out-of-the-box hire' with hockey IQ comparable to Marty St. Louis. Despite the Leafs' uncertainty around Auston Matthews’ future, Lebrun believes Edmonton is in a stronger position to improve, thanks to its core talent and potential coaching upgrade. The episode closes with a critical update: the NHLPA must formally endorse the Oilers' move by confirming players are ready to proceed without an investigation.
The NHLPA must formally approve Mike Babcock’s return by confirming players are ready to proceed without an NHL investigation into his Columbus departure.
Joe Pavelski is one of five finalists for the Toronto Maple Leafs' head coaching job, making him a bold, high-IQ out-of-the-box hire.
The Red Wings are expected to make a major trade for Dylan Larkin, with Minnesota, Vegas, and Florida on the shortlist, and a second list likely to be extended.
Edmonton holds a stronger improvement outlook than Toronto due to its core players and potential Babcock-led culture reset.
The Leafs’ coaching search includes unconventional candidates beyond Pavelski, with Patrick Kane and Jay Woodcroft also in the mix.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Dylan Larkin's Free Agency and Red Wings' Trade Strategy
“I get that everyone thinks Detroit is really jammed up here, and obviously they are at the outset here. But I wouldn't put it past Steve Eisenman and end up making a pretty good trade for his team here.”
Mike Babcock's Return to the Oilers: Controversy and Approval Hurdles
“The NHLPA would need to tell the league that the players are prepared to let the Oilers move forward without a league investigation into the circumstances leading to what happened in Columbus.”
Joe Pavelski's Surprise Coaching Candidacy with the Toronto Maple Leafs
“He's super bright. IQ through the roof is what allowed him to excel. It certainly wasn't his natural skating ability.”
Edmonton vs. Toronto: Who Can Improve More?
Lebrun weighs the roster and coaching prospects of both teams, concluding that Edmonton is in a better position to improve due to its core talent and potential Babcock hire, while Toronto’s future with Auston Matthews remains uncertain.
Final Update: NHLPA's Role in Babcock's Approval
“The PA would need to tell the league that they, the PA, and therefore the players, are ready to let the Oilers move forward without an NHL investigation.”
“The NHLPA would need to tell the league that the players are prepared to let the Oilers move forward without a league investigation into the circumstances leading to what happened in Columbus.”
“So I get that everyone thinks Detroit is really jammed up here, and obviously they are at the outset here. But I wouldn't put it past Steve Eisenman and end up making a pretty good trade for his team here.”
“He's super bright. IQ through the roof is what allowed him to excel. It certainly wasn't his natural skating ability.”
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Pierre Lebrun
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Mike Babcock
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joe Pavelski
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Edmonton Oilers
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NHLPA
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Dylan Larkin
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NHL
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Steve Eisenman
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Connor McDavid
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