454. Remain Calm. Confidence Ahead with Michael Herold

Psychologists Off the Clock45mApril 7, 2026

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In this episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, host Dr. Yael Schoenbrunn interviews confidence coach and ACT practitioner Michael Herold about his evidence-based confidence-building course. The conversation centers on dismantling common myths about confidence, particularly the belief that you must first achieve the 'right mindset' or motivation before taking action. Herold challenges this notion with the powerful metaphor of driving a car: instead of waiting for your thoughts and emotions to be perfect (passenger seat), you must take the driver's seat and move forward despite discomfort. He emphasizes that anxiety and self-doubt are not enemies to be eliminated but passengers to be acknowledged and managed. The core of his approach lies in 'comfort zone challenges'—low-stakes, playful exercises like lying down in public or asking for something off-menu—to build experiential evidence that discomfort doesn't equal danger. These practices help individuals rewire their relationship with fear, proving that they can act in alignment with their values even when anxious. Herold shares transformative stories of participants who overcame social anxiety, launched music careers, and gained life-changing confidence through these methods. The episode concludes with a heartfelt reflection on how small acts of courage can ripple into profound personal transformation.

Key Takeaways
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Confidence isn't about eliminating anxiety—it's about learning to act despite it.

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The 'right mindset' isn't a prerequisite for action; action builds confidence.

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Use low-stakes 'comfort zone challenges' (like lying down in public) to gather evidence that discomfort isn't dangerous.

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Your thoughts and emotions are passengers in your life—they don’t need to be silenced, just not in control.

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You're not the center of other people's universe; they’ll forget you quickly, and you’re likely not as annoying as you fear.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

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1:40
3 min

Introducing Michael Herold: Confidence Coach & ACT Practitioner

Dr. Yael Schoenbrunn introduces Michael Herold, her co-host and confidence coach, highlighting his decade of experience, workshops, and the upcoming release of his confidence-building course.

5:00
5 min

The Mindset Myth: Why Waiting for Motivation Fails

You're not going to wait until that noisy passenger gets out of the car. You're going to take the driver's seat and drive anyway.

Highlight
10:00
7 min

Anxiety as a Passenger: From Enemy to Ally

There is a certain thumbs up feeling that comes with anxiety that tells me that right now I'm doing something that adds meaning to my life.

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16:40
7 min

Why Scripts and Manuals Don’t Work for Social Skills

You can't learn to ride a bicycle by reading every book on it. You have to get on the bike and ride.

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High-Impact Quotes
There is a certain thumbs up feeling that comes with anxiety that tells me that right now I'm doing something that adds meaning to my life.
Michael Herold12:53
Viral: 90.0
You'll probably not be the story that they tell on their deathbed. You'll probably not be the center of the universe for the next 10 years.
Michael Herold33:14
Viral: 88.0
You're going to annoy people all the time anyway. So this is the question: Will I annoy people? That's also what will stop you from asking someone out.
Michael Herold36:37
Viral: 87.0
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Host

Dr. Yael Schoenbrunn

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Michael Herold
Topics Discussed
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