460 - Navigating Triggers and Traumas After Year One w/ Jason and Shelley Martinkus
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In episode 460 of The Pure Desire Podcast, hosts Nick Stumbo and Rebecca Vandermeer welcome Jason and Shelley Martinkus, authors and recovery advocates with over two decades of experience navigating the aftermath of sexual addiction in marriage. The conversation centers on the complex emotional landscape couples face after the first year of recovery, particularly around triggers and trauma. Jason and Shelley emphasize that healing is not linear or a destination, but a lifelong process of sanctification. They share practical wisdom on how betrayed spouses can identify and communicate triggers without shame, while helping recovering partners reframe emotional reactions as opportunities for deeper connection rather than threats. The discussion highlights the critical distinction between past trauma triggers and present relational pain, and underscores the importance of self-compassion, nervous system regulation, and front-loading conversations for upcoming life transitions like holidays or new family dynamics. The hosts also address the painful disparity that often emerges when one partner achieves sobriety while the other remains in grief, offering guidance on how both can honor their individual journeys without pressure or guilt. Ultimately, the episode affirms that triggers, when approached with empathy and intentionality, can become powerful catalysts for relational depth and spiritual growth.
Healing after year one is not a finish line but a lifelong journey of sanctification; progress is often non-linear and requires patience.
Triggers are not failures—they are signals of unresolved pain and opportunities for deeper healing and connection.
The betrayed spouse should focus on self-compassion and nervous system regulation before attempting to communicate triggers.
Recovering partners must learn to hear fear behind emotion, not logic—love, not logic, heals fear.
Front-loading conversations about upcoming stressors (e.g., holidays, new babies) helps couples navigate triggers proactively.
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Introducing the Couples Recovery Series
Nick Stumbo and Rebecca Vandermeer introduce the new five-part series on couples recovery, emphasizing the need to bridge individual healing with relational restoration. They welcome Jason and Shelley Martinkus as co-hosts, highlighting their decades-long journey through sexual addiction recovery and their work helping others.
Healing Is a Lifelong Journey, Not a Destination
“We're still on the journey. Like, the healing journey never ends. We might be a little further along, but we're still on the journey as well.”
Understanding Triggers: Past Pain vs. Present Pain
“A trigger is something happening in the present that reminds us of pain from the past. Sometimes it's, yes, it's a trigger, but it's also present pain.”
How the Recovering Partner Can Respond to Triggers
“Logic does not fix fear. And so many of us as husbands... just want to tell you the logic to make your trigger stop. But what helps fear is love, not logic.”
Navigating the Disparity in Recovery Progress
“The person you hurt is probably not the person to affirm you because they're the person you hurt.”
“Logic does not fix fear. And so many of us as husbands... just want to tell you the logic to make your trigger stop. But what helps fear is love, not logic.”
“The person you hurt is probably not the person to affirm you because they're the person you hurt.”
“We're still on the journey. Like, the healing journey never ends. We might be a little further along, but we're still on the journey as well.”
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