Liza L - The LESS I Know - Meeting 434

RECO121h 8mMay 8, 2026

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Liza L, a longtime speaker and beloved member of the RICO 12 community, delivers a powerful and deeply personal talk titled 'The Less I Know' in this episode of RICO 12 Speaker Meeting 434. Drawing from her lived experience as a recovering addict, Liza explores the transformative power of surrender, simplicity, and spiritual connection. She shares how her journey from intellectual pride and self-reliance—driven by a need to know everything for safety—to a state of 'guts and bones, soul belly knowing' has brought her profound peace, freedom, and a home in God. Central to her message is the idea that true knowing comes not from the mind or the body, but from a deep, spiritual connection to the infinite power described in the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous. She emphasizes that 'the less I know' is not a lack, but a liberation, allowing her to live from a place of willingness, humility, and divine guidance. Liza also addresses the ongoing nature of recovery, the inevitability of daily relapses in emotional sobriety, and the importance of turning again and again, not as a burden, but as a spiritual practice. Her message is one of radical simplicity, unwavering faith, and the joy of being a 'God's agent' in the world. The episode concludes with a heartfelt prayer and a call to action for listeners to support the RICO 12 mission and embrace the new Saturday meeting schedule.

Key Takeaways
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True knowing comes not from intellect or sensory experience, but from 'guts and bones, soul belly knowing'—a deep, spiritual connection to God.

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The more you try to know and control, the less free you become; surrendering to 'I don't know' is the path to freedom and peace.

3

Recovery is not a one-time event but a daily practice of turning in all things, especially when you're in the 'crazy town' of self.

4

The Big Book of AA is not just a guidebook but a living, breathing source of answers—when you seek earnestly, you always find.

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Emotional sobriety is not about perfection but about showing up, turning, and being willing, even when you're a 'messy human' every day.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

Welcome to RICO 12 & The New Weekly Rhythm

Justin B. welcomes listeners to RICO 12 Speaker Meeting 434, introduces the podcast's mission, and announces a major change: the weekly meeting is moving from Fridays to Saturdays, starting May 16th, to open the door for new listeners and speakers. He expresses gratitude for past contributors and encourages support.

5:00
5 min

Introducing Liza L: A Voice of Radical Simplicity

Justin introduces Liza L, a repeat speaker and former host, highlighting her deep relationship with the Big Book of AA and her journey from intellectual pride to living from a place of spiritual surrender. He emphasizes her authenticity and the value of her presence in the RICO 12 family.

10:00
10 min

The Power of 'The Less I Know'

The more than I know in this way of life, the more I realize like, I don't know shit. Like, I don't know anything, the less I know, right? And that is my happy place.

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20:00
15 min

The Real Me: Living from Guts and Bones

I am the me in here that can experience all of these things from an observational perspective because I'm connected to that power. That is the real me, that deep like you know how you used to when you're a kid, you would say like, I hate you. Like, that's some real cool stuff because it's science from that place in our bodies.

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35:00
15 min

The Simple Solution: Turn in All Things

I must turn in all things. Wait a minute. But what if it's not column four? Who cares? What's the answer? Turn. Okay. Is it that simple? Yes. What? Cheat codes, you guys.

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High-Impact Quotes
I don't have to go home. I have a home. I am at home. Always.
Liza L59:53
Viral: 95.0
I must turn in all things. Wait a minute. But what if it's not column four? Who cares? What's the answer? Turn. Okay. Is it that simple? Yes. What? Cheat codes, you guys.
Liza L17:34
Viral: 90.0
Take the call, pay the bill. It'll work out. Because I'm not the one who has to make it work. I'm just the one who has to be willing to do it.
Liza L50:25
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Justin B.

Guest

Liza L
Topics Discussed
spiritual surrender95%the big book of aa as a living guide93%the power of 'turning'92%simplicity in recovery90%the real self vs. the ego88%trusting divine provision87%daily relapse and emotional sobriety85%peace in imperfection83%
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Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous

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