BONUS: Eerie Iowa: The Hawkeye State's Darker Side
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In this bonus episode of the After Dinner Podcast, host John Keely welcomes Professor Emeritus Bruce Walters of Western Illinois University to discuss his co-authored book, 'Eerie, Iowa: The Hawkeye State's Darker Side.' The conversation delves into the philosophical nature of eeriness—defined not as observable phenomena but as a subconscious feeling of absence or disconnect—drawing on psychological and neurological insights. Walters explores how the brain's predictive mechanisms create a sense of unease when reality doesn't align with expectation, likening it to a 'glitch in The Matrix.' The episode also examines haunting historical events in Iowa, including the tragic 1955 St. Elizabeth Hospital fire in Davenport, the overlooked legacy of immigrant doctors like Dr. Charlotte Rosendorf, and the cultural persistence of local legends. The book’s unexpected popularity and the dynamic collaboration between Walters and co-author Michael McCarthy—balancing seriousness with humor—are highlighted, underscoring the power of storytelling to preserve forgotten histories and emotional truths. The discussion reflects on how communities remember, forget, and mythologize their pasts.
Eeriness stems from a subconscious disconnect between prediction and reality, not from observable horror.
Historical trauma like the St. Elizabeth Hospital fire is often suppressed or forgotten, even decades later.
Many remarkable individuals—especially immigrants and marginalized figures—leave no public record despite profound contributions.
Collaborative storytelling thrives when serious inquiry is paired with humor and relentless perseverance.
Local legends and ghost stories can become cultural touchstones, even when rooted in unverified or disputed events.
Introduction to Eerie, Iowa
Host John Keely introduces the episode and guest Bruce Walters, professor emeritus and co-author of 'Eerie, Iowa: The Hawkeye State's Darker Side,' setting the stage for a deep dive into the psychological and historical roots of eeriness in Iowa.
The Philosophy of Eeriness
“Eeriness is when something has been subtracted... It's worth serious pursuit.”
Personal Encounters with Eerie Places
The hosts share personal experiences of eerie sensations—Rick in the desert, John in a forest near the Mississippi—linking them to historical memory and subconscious perception.
The St. Elizabeth Hospital Fire and Forgotten Histories
“I just find someone like that that seems to be like no record of. And I think that's a crime.”
The Making of the Book and Its Reception
“He never took it unseriously. He always wrote about it with conviction.”
“I just find someone like that that seems to be like no record of. And I think that's a crime.”
“Eeriness is when something has been subtracted... It's worth serious pursuit.”
“He never took it unseriously. He always wrote about it with conviction.”
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Bruce Walters
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Eerie, Iowa
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Michael McCarthy
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St. Elizabeth Hospital
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Davenport
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Quad Cities
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Dr. Charlotte Rosendorf
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Time Magazine
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Western Illinois University
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KALA Radio
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