Bull v. Bear: IBM's Quantum Leadership in Early Innovation

Schwab Network10mMay 22, 2026

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IBM is at the center of a high-stakes tech and geopolitical race, with a $1 billion government-backed quantum foundry poised to transform its long-downturned business model. While some see the recent stock surge as a speculative 'catch-up' trade—driven by investors eager not to miss another tech boom like Intel’s—others argue IBM’s foundational role in quantum computing gives it a sustainable edge. The company’s new standalone quantum foundry, backed by both IBM and the U.S. Commerce Department, is part of a broader national strategy to counter China’s advances in next-gen computing. Though quantum technology remains years from commercial maturity, analysts believe IBM’s early lead in qubit development, infrastructure, and government partnerships could yield billions in future revenue with high margins. The episode’s trading strategies reflect this duality: Joe Mazzola’s bullish diagonal call spread bets on a rally to 270, while Kevin Hinks’ bearish back ratio spread profits from volatility or a stall near current levels—highlighting the market’s uncertainty around quantum’s near-term impact.

Key Takeaways
1

IBM’s quantum foundry, backed by $1B from IBM and the U.S. Commerce Department, is a cornerstone of America’s strategic push to lead in next-gen computing.

2

The stock’s rebound from $212 to $225 reflects both a catch-up trade and renewed confidence in IBM’s long-term quantum revenue potential.

3

Quantum computing remains years from commercialization, but IBM holds a leading position in qubit technology and infrastructure development.

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The 200-day moving average at $270 is a key technical resistance level that could trigger further upside momentum if breached.

5

Joe Mazzola’s diagonal call spread offers leveraged upside exposure with defined risk, while Kevin Hinks’ back ratio spread profits from volatility or stagnation near $255.

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Chapters
0:00
1 min

IBM Stock Surge After Quantum Foundry Announcement

IBM and the Commerce Department are each expected to invest $1 billion into the project, underscoring growing government and corporate support for next-gen computing technology.

Highlight
1:00
2 min

Joe Mazzola: Bullish Case for IBM’s Quantum Future

This is a story of a stock that for years upon years upon years had declining revenue. And it was always that. So that's what we kept talking about, right? It's declining revenue, declining revenue.

3:00
2 min

Kevin Hinks: IBM as a Foundational Quantum Leader

I think it's going to change. Think about IBM growing again, significantly growing and I think that's what might be down the road for this company.

5:00
2 min

Trading Strategies: Joe’s Bullish Diagonal Spread

Buy where you're at, sell where you think you're going. And that kind of goes—we talk about that with vertical spreads.

7:00
2 min

Trading Strategies: Kevin’s Bearish Back Ratio Spread

If it were to move up towards 270 and through, you would just keep the credit and move on. So you're bearish, but you don't lose on a big move on the upside.

High-Impact Quotes
I want to take note of I got the memo. I'm picking up what you're putting down. You'll see in a minute. I am contributing to this.
Diane9:23
Viral: 80.0
255. Anything, if it moves up towards 270 and through, you would just keep the credit and move on. So you're bearish, but you don't lose on a big move on the upside,
Kevin Hinks9:04
Viral: 75.0
This is a story of a stock that for years upon years upon years had declining revenue. And it was always that. So that's what we kept talking about, right? It's declining revenue, declining revenue.
Joe Mazzola2:08
Viral: 72.0
Speakers

Host

Diane
Topics Discussed
quantum computing95%ibm quantum foundry90%tech race with china88%government investment in tech85%quantum computing stocks80%diagonal call spread75%back ratio spread70%200-day moving average65%
People & Brands

ibm

organization

12xPositive

diane

person

8xNeutral

kevin hinks

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6xNeutral

joe mazzola

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6xNeutral

commerce department

organization

4xPositive

d-wave

organization

2xNeutral

anderson

organization

1xPositive

vergetti

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1xNeutral

inflection

organization

1xNeutral

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