Josh Schafer on Nasdaq Momentum, AI Capex, and the Case for Intel

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The market's recent surge to record highs—driven by a 30% rally in hardware ETFs and a sharp rebound in AI infrastructure stocks—has investors reevaluating the sustainability of the current momentum. Josh Schafer of Barron's Investor Circle argues that the rally isn't just about short-term sentiment but reflects a long-term hardware buildout, with chipmakers and AI infrastructure companies leading the charge. While software stocks like ServiceNow have seen sharp pullbacks amid 'SaaSpocalypse' fears, larger, more entrenched players like Microsoft and Oracle are weathering the storm due to their dominant market positions. Intel, despite a 220% rally over the past year and a 200% surge in just weeks, remains a speculative bet—its stock still trading below all-time highs and with earnings expectations not yet reflecting a turnaround. Schafer warns that while the market is pricing in a quick end to geopolitical conflict, the real test lies in whether fundamentals, especially Intel’s upcoming earnings, can justify the FOMO-driven run. The key insight? In a 'risk-on' environment, the most promising opportunities aren’t in the obvious winners—but in underappreciated names with room for upside surprises. The episode reveals a market increasingly focused on physical infrastructure over software, with AI capital expenditure (CAPEX) now the dominant narrative. Investors are betting on the long arc of AI deployment, not immediate profits.

Key Takeaways
1

Hardware ETFs rallied 30% from market bottom, outpacing software’s 9% gain—signaling AI infrastructure is the dominant theme, not software monetization.

2

Intel’s 220% year-to-date rise is driven by narrative momentum, not fundamentals; its stock still has room to run if earnings surprise to the upside.

3

The market is pricing in a swift end to geopolitical conflict, with oil and stocks no longer moving inversely—indicating a shift to 'risk-on' mode.

4

Software stocks like ServiceNow are under pressure due to multiple compression after an 8-day rally, but large players like Microsoft and Oracle remain resilient.

5

Investors should focus on companies where earnings estimates haven’t caught up to the narrative—Intel is a prime example of a 'surprise candidate'.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Market Rally and Nasdaq's Historic Rebound

The Nasdaq composite had its longest winning streak since 1992. So it is sort of historically significant how quickly stocks came back.

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2:00
2 min

Earnings, Oil, and the Market's New Equilibrium

Schafer explains how the market has adjusted to oil prices above $100 and geopolitical tensions, now pricing in a swift end to conflict and moving past headline-driven volatility.

4:00
2 min

AI Infrastructure and the Hardware-First Rally

It was a 30% rally in a hardware ETF, the Sox ETF, and only a 9% rally in software. So you're seeing hardware over software.

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6:00
2 min

The SaaSpocalypse and Software’s Struggles

Software stocks, especially smaller names like ServiceNow, are facing a sharp correction after a brief rally, as investors demand better earnings to justify high valuations.

8:00
2 min

Intel: The Next Test of the Chip Trade

Intel still pretty far off its all time high has room to perhaps continue to run higher.

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High-Impact Quotes
It was a 30% rally in a hardware ETF, the Sox ETF, and only a 9% rally in software. So you're seeing hardware over software.
Josh Schafer3:26
Viral: 92.0
Intel still pretty far off its all time high has room to perhaps continue to run higher.
Josh Schafer7:47
Viral: 88.0
longest, Nasdaq composite had its longest winning streak since 1992. So it is sort of historically significant how quickly stocks came back.
Josh Schafer0:36
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Sam

Guest

Josh Schafer
Topics Discussed
intel stock98%ai capex95%chip stocks92%nasdaq momentum90%software earnings85%saa-spocalypse80%oil and markets75%geopolitical risk70%
People & Brands

Josh Schafer

person

15xNeutral

Intel

organization

9xNeutral

S&P 500

other

6xNeutral

Microsoft

organization

5xPositive

ServiceNow

organization

4xNegative

SOX ETF

other

4xNeutral

Barron's Investor Circle

organization

3xNeutral

Tesla

organization

3xPositive

Elon Musk

person

2xPositive

Oracle

organization

2xPositive

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