309: EverythingEverything You Always Wanted To Know About Trump’s Slush Fund, But Were Afraid To Ask.
The hosts of Sisters Sidebar, Joyce Vance and Jill Wine-Banks, dissect the controversial $1.776 billion slush fund allegedly created by Donald Trump, calling it an illegal use of taxpayer money that violates Congress’s exclusive power of the purse. They reject the idea of using the fund to compensate victims of Trump’s own administration, emphasizing that the money belongs to the public and cannot be weaponized by a sitting president. The episode explores the legal and constitutional boundaries of presidential power, with a focus on a recent federal injunction blocking the fund’s implementation. The judges’ ruling, led by the respected Judge Leonie Brinkema, suggests the fund may be halted permanently. The hosts also debate whether taxpayers can sue over the fund, cautioning that allowing such lawsuits could open the floodgates to challenges on medical and social programs. They express deep concern over Trump’s alleged insider trading and question whether he could self-pardon—though they agree such a pardon would be unconstitutional. Still, they warn that judicial immunity and a controversial side agreement with the IRS may shield him from prosecution, though a future Democratic administration could still investigate new financial activity. The episode ends with a call to action: support the lawsuits, stay informed, and hold power accountable.
The $1.776 billion slush fund is an illegal use of taxpayer money; only Congress can authorize spending, not the president.
Trump’s slush fund is self-limiting and will expire before the 2029 inauguration, but it could still be used during its window.
A federal judge, Leonie Brinkema, has issued a preliminary injunction blocking the fund, signaling strong legal opposition.
Taxpayer lawsuits are barred by standing rules, but other lawsuits—like Andrew Floyd’s—are making legal headway.
Trump’s side agreement with the IRS to avoid prosecution for past tax issues is not legally binding and lacks adversarial legitimacy.
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Welcome & Listener Questions
The hosts introduce the show, encourage listener engagement, and begin with a question from Mary Ann about the fairness of using the slush fund to compensate only MAGA supporters.
The Illegality of the Slush Fund
“This money does belong to all of us. The Constitution says that only Congress can spend it. Donald Trump doesn't get to do it.”
Internships for Future Lawyers
The hosts discuss non-traditional legal internships, emphasizing passion-driven work in public interest, social justice, and policy over big law firm experience.
Prison Crimes & Prosecution
Joyce shares her experience as a U.S. attorney, explaining that crimes in prison are prosecuted under the same standards as outside crimes.
Can the Slush Fund Be Stopped?
“It will not be able to be abolished by the next attorney general or anyone else because it will have expired in December of 2028.”
“But the important takeaway here is in the final sentence of your question, this money does belong to all of us. The Constitution says that only Congress can spend it. Donald Trump doesn't get to do it.”
“I don't think he will self -pardon because it is clearly not allowable. But I think that he will somehow have immunity for this.”
“So it will not be able to be abolished by the next attorney general or anyone else because it will have expired in December of 2028.”
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Joyce Vance
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Jill Wine-Banks
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Donald Trump
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Judge Leonie Brinkema
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IRS
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U.S. Attorney
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Andrew Floyd
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James Comey
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Acting Attorney General Blanche
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Eastern District of Virginia
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