What Next - He Made 2026's "Most Controversial Film"
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In this episode of *What Next*, host Mary Harris interviews Israeli filmmaker Nadav Lapid about his controversial new film, *Yes*, which explores post-October 7th Israel through a surreal, satirical lens. The film, described as a 'bomb' of cinematic provocation, juxtaposes hedonistic party scenes in Tel Aviv with harrowing depictions of Gaza’s destruction, using absurdity and dark comedy to expose the moral contradictions within Israeli society. Lapid reveals that the film was born from his personal reckoning after returning to Israel following the October 7th attacks, where he witnessed both profound national agony and a dangerous thirst for revenge. He recounts how children’s songs glorifying violence became a catalyst for the film, and how real footage from Gaza—complete with live gunfire—was incorporated into the narrative to underscore the film’s emotional and ethical gravity. The conversation delves into the film’s central thesis: that understanding history requires confronting not just victims, but the 'predators' who perpetuate violence, even as they claim moral superiority. The episode also examines the fierce backlash Lapid has faced in Israel, including condemnation from the Minister of Culture, who publicly vowed to cut funding and branded him an enemy of the state. Yet Lapid remains defiant, framing his work as an act of love—a painful, necessary reckoning with a nation he still calls home. He emphasizes that *Yes* is not an attack on Israel, but a mirror held up to its own soul, urging Israelis to confront their complicity and internal contradictions. The film, he argues, is not about external enemies, but about the internal crisis of identity, normalcy, and moral decay. Ultimately, the episode positions *Yes* as a pivotal cultural moment—one that forces a difficult, overdue conversation about what kind of society Israel wants to be.
Art can be a form of love—especially when it’s painful, critical, and necessary.
The normalization of violence in daily life can be as destructive as war itself.
Children’s songs glorifying annihilation are not just propaganda—they are a cultural symptom of deeper moral collapse.
True empathy requires confronting your own complicity, not just the actions of others.
The most dangerous blindness is not seeing others, but not seeing yourself.
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The Bomb of a Film: Introducing 'Yes'
“If you take the most explosive topic that exists of this moment and you put it on a screen with what can consider it as a very explosive form of cinema, so the result is a kind of a bomb.”
Tel Aviv as a Bubble: Normalizing Chaos
Lapid reflects on growing up in Tel Aviv—a city built on the illusion of normalcy amid perpetual crisis. He describes how Israelis celebrate even as war rages, creating a dangerous psychological detachment from reality.
The Birth of a Film: From Power to Trauma
Lapid explains how his original film about power and money transformed after October 7th. His return to Israel revealed both deep national agony and a terrifying shift toward vengeance, which became the core of *Yes*.
The Children’s Anthem: A Nation’s Soul
“None of them had the slightest comment... the only thing that they were telling me were I feel that my kid is a little bit far from the camera, maybe you can't see him well.”
Gaza on Screen: Real Footage, Real Fire
“We didn't have to, unfortunately, to add anything in the mixing room.”
“Israel is full of people who wonder how people could have lived normally while an atrocity was being perpetrated... and they themselves have become the answer to that question.”
“It's the only home that I will ever have. You know, I mean, I will never have another home.”
“None of them had the slightest comment... the only thing that they were telling me were I feel that my kid is a little bit far from the camera, maybe you can't see him well.”
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Be My Lover
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