1996: The Postgrad Playbook: How to Land Your First Real Job
The transition from college to the workforce is one of the most underserved and stressful periods in young adults' lives, yet society assumes it will just 'figure itself out.' In this episode, Farnoosh Torabi interviews Jalene Dolnay, founder of The Postgrad Playbook, who reveals that new grads are spending up to two years job hunting, often ending up in roles that don’t require their degrees—like barista jobs—despite paying six figures for their education. Dolnay shares a powerful, actionable six-month playbook: treat your job search like a sales job, optimize your LinkedIn with real insights from your experience, network aggressively using alumni and peer connections, and embrace entry-level roles—even in sales—as foundational career accelerators. She argues that a year in sales builds irreplaceable skills in communication, negotiation, and resilience, and even helped her land a New York City apartment by outcompeting 200 others through strategic outreach. The episode dismantles the myth that more applications equal better odds, emphasizing quality over quantity, and urges young people to view grad school not as a rite of passage but as a strategic investment with clear ROI. Dolnay also stresses the importance of AI fluency, framing it not as a threat but as a tool to master, and champions networking as a skill that can be practiced, not feared. Her mission? To build a lasting institutional resource for postgrads—because the struggle isn’t temporary, it’s systemic.
Treat your job search like a sales job: use inbound (visibility) and outbound (proactive outreach) strategies to expand your opportunities.
Optimize your LinkedIn with real, specific content—share your job search journey, internship insights, and what’s working or not working.
A year in sales builds irreplaceable soft skills in communication, negotiation, and resilience—more valuable than most entry-level roles.
Reframe rejection as a learning tool: the earlier you experience it, the less it will hurt over time.
Use your college alumni network and peer connections as your first layer of outreach—most people will help if you ask.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Book to Brand Event Announcement
Farnoosh promotes an immersive event in New York City on October 9th, Book to Brand, designed to help aspiring authors turn their ideas into pitch-ready book concepts with support from agents, publishers, and recent authors.
The Postgrad Transition Crisis
“This transition is one of the most underserved in our culture and the job market right now is making it even harder.”
Jalene Dolnay’s Journey
Jalene shares her path from UC Santa Barbara biology grad to founder of The Postgrad Playbook, including a pivotal ACL injury, a year in sales at Enterprise, and a TikTok-driven community that led to her career pivot.
The Reality of the Job Market
“They're also really ending up in jobs that don't require that college degree.”
The Value of 'Uncool' Jobs
Farnoosh and Jalene discuss the stigma around service jobs and argue that roles in retail or hospitality teach patience, customer service, and resilience—skills that transfer to any career.
“A year of sales will do more for you in the foundation of your career than I think a lot of experiences won.”
“So I hope the postgrad book can be that institutional home and that institution, that transitional home and resource for postgrads for decades, even beyond when I'm here.”
“But this transition is one of the most underserved in our culture and the job market right now is making it even harder.”
Host
Guest
Farnoosh Torabi
person
Jalene Dolnay
person
The Postgrad Playbook
organization
organization
TikTok
organization
Enterprise
organization
UC Santa Barbara
organization
Yahoo Finance
organization
Kate Santition
person
Susie Welch
person
Calendly.com vs Cal.com: How to Make Calendar Scheduling Easier for Online Meetings
2h 10m • 5/31/2026
Creating Content That Matters: Cybersecurity, Authenticity, and Building Your Brand with Eva Benn
32m • 6/2/2026
1991: The Truth About Queer Money: Myths, Stressors, and the Path Forward (Encore)
40m • 6/3/2026
1993: The New Rules for Getting a Financial Life with NYT Bestseller Beth Kobliner
38m • 6/8/2026
How to Stop Caring and Start Posting
1h 8m • 6/17/2026
1990: The Story of Gold: Power, Wealth and Why People Love to Buy It
35m • 6/1/2026
1992: Ask Farnoosh: Angel Investing, Saving for a Downpayment and What to Do When She Makes Less
36m • 6/6/2026
1994: What Does Childcare Actually Cost?
31m • 6/10/2026
Start discovering podcast insights today
Start with a 7-day trial and explore a growing catalog of popular podcasts. No credit card required.
No credit card required • 7-day trial • Cancel anytime

