This company is rewiring the economics of TV advertising
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Philip Engelbrecht, co-founder of Tattari, joins Simon Owens to discuss how his company is transforming TV advertising by building a vertically integrated, software-driven platform that brings digital-like performance measurement, automation, and outcome-based optimization to a traditionally opaque and manual medium. Drawing from his experience as a TV advertiser at Truecar, Engelbrecht shares how he was frustrated by the lack of measurable results and data transparency in linear TV, which led to the creation of Tattari in 2016. The company has since evolved into a full-stack solution that handles everything from creative management and media planning to execution and measurement—using machine learning and AI to suggest optimal campaigns based on eight years of data. Unlike most ad tech platforms that rely on programmatic exchanges, Tattari uses direct publisher integrations with major networks like NBCU and Paramount, eliminating intermediaries and reducing costs while improving brand safety and access to premium inventory. This approach allows even small brands to enter the TV market with as little as $20,000, though Engelbrecht cautions that TV is not yet viable for the smallest SMBs with under $1 million in annual marketing spend. The episode also explores the challenges of measuring TV outcomes without digital clicks, the competitive threat posed by walled gardens like YouTube and Amazon, and how Tattari’s tech enables cross-platform planning across linear and streaming TV with unified reporting. Ultimately, Tattari is redefining TV as a performance channel, not just a brand-building one, while preserving its unique power to reach broad audiences.
Tattari uses direct publisher integrations instead of programmatic exchanges to eliminate intermediaries, reduce costs, and improve brand safety in TV ad buying.
The platform enables outcome-based measurement—tracking whether TV ads drive website visits, app installs, or sales—using probabilistic and deterministic models.
Brands can now launch TV campaigns with as little as $20,000, significantly lowering the barrier to entry compared to the traditional $3M+ threshold.
Tattari’s AI-driven system suggests media plans based on billions in historical data, allowing brands to approve and launch campaigns in minutes.
Despite the dominance of platforms like YouTube and Amazon, Tattari helps brands reach audiences beyond digital walled gardens, especially through linear TV’s broad reach.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The New CMO’s First TV Ad: Can You Just Sign Up and Go?
Simon Owens opens the episode by asking how a new CMO with a $1.5M annual marketing budget can navigate TV advertising without prior experience, setting up the core theme of accessibility and simplicity in modern ad tech.
From Personal Frustration to Tattari: The Founding Story
“I had a lot of fears around TV advertising and the truth is all my fears came true. We launched a two, $3 million TV campaign and we weren't really sure what was working and wasn't working.”
The Problem with TV Measurement: Nielsen vs. Outcome-Based
“Success of a campaign was determined by the extent to which it drove an outcome... did it bring somebody to my website? Did they buy the product?”
How Tattari Works: From Creative to Execution in One Platform
“We don't need to talk to the networks anymore. There's a fool. Technology integration as it comes to media execution.”
Why Tattari Avoids Programmatic: The Power of Direct Deals
“If the market, if supply is this concentrated, why go through this whole SSP or programmatic principle when you can do one by one?”
“Success of a campaign was determined by the extent to which it drove an outcome... did it bring somebody to my website? Did they buy the product?”
“75% of all the brands that we bring to TV, we bring about one new brand to TV every day, 75% of those is their first ad dollar on TV ever.”
“I had a lot of fears around TV advertising and the truth is all my fears came true. We launched a two, $3 million TV campaign and we weren't really sure what was working and wasn't working.”
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