Wanting to Write a Child's Next Obsession with Dan Santat

In this episode of The Children's Book Podcast, host Matthew Winner welcomes back acclaimed author-illustrator Dan Santat to discuss his new middle grade graphic novel series, A Fishboy Named Sashimi. Santat reveals that the series, centered on a fish boy named Sashimi who sneaks into a human elementary school in the mysterious seaside town of Barnacle Bay, is deeply personal—Sashimi embodies Santat’s own 'id' in a Freudian sense, a carefree, unfiltered version of himself. The conversation explores Santat’s lifelong fascination with urban myths and cryptids, his desire to create a 'child’s next obsession'—a book series so compelling kids can’t put it down—and his intentional inclusion of humor that resonates with both children and adults. He emphasizes the importance of writing for the 'adult in the room,' using layered jokes about school budget cuts and everyday frustrations that adults recognize but kids may not fully grasp—yet still enjoy. Santat also shares how the series is designed to build a community of readers through recurring inside jokes and interconnected characters, creating a shared cultural experience akin to long-running shows like The Simpsons or Arrested Development. His creative process, including collaborating with a colorist and running a 'writer’s room' for punch-ups, reflects a joyful, liberated approach after years of emotionally intense projects like After the Fall and A First Time for Everything. The episode closes with Santat’s heartfelt message to young readers: to enjoy being a kid, be fearless, and embrace play.